Just in case you didn't think you were a second class citizen...

**Berries** · 16th September 2010, 19:04

Originally Posted by red mermaid

Ya know, I've given out probably thousands of these bottles of water and no one has ever suggested this.

Originally Posted by red mermaid

Police do have operations targetting trucks, buses, Suv's, vehicles towing boat trailers all the time. Funnily enough when I take part in them the majority of drivers thank for me the work and say how great it is to see it happening.

Well now you know what they are really thinking.

**98tls** · 16th September 2010, 19:25

Originally Posted by Berries

Well now you know what they are really thinking.

Rather have them out there than not,no matter what anyones opinion on what/how they target there victims being out there can only be good,had the mis-fortune to sit through an episode of some Kiwi made "Road cops " or similar the other night,fuck theres some retards on the road inclusive of this fat cunt in a van they had pulled over complete with pink stickers from the week before

tailshaft had fallen out of the bloody thing and all he and his baseball cap on backwards mates had to say was "westside" whilst impersonating a Gorilla

**DMNTD:Me** · 16th September 2010, 19:28

Originally Posted by riffer

It is constitutional in New Zealand that if you are in a public place you do not have the right to stop people taking a photo of you, eg Speed cameras and CCTVs in city centres. Like it or not, this is the way it is.

Just to clarify 100%...a Policeman can force you to stand still,helmet off whilst your photo is being taken even if you have NOT broken the law?

**riffer** · 16th September 2010, 19:30

Originally Posted by Dumpty

Just to clarify 100%...a Policeman can force you to stand still,helmet off whilst your photo is being taken even if you have NOT broken the law?

Why? Has this happened and who has this happened to?

**scracha** · 16th September 2010, 19:31

Originally Posted by Dumpty

Just to clarify 100%...a Policeman can force you to stand still,helmet off whilst your photo is being taken even if you have NOT broken the law?

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Wonder what the charge would be if you covered your face, looked the other way or just put your helmet back on and told them to fuck off?

**DMNTD:Me** · 16th September 2010, 19:36

Originally Posted by riffer

Why? Has this happened and who has this happened to?

Well, as mentioned near the beginning of this thread, there was talk of photos being taken of motorcyclists entering/on the Coro.
That is why I asked...also your post eluded to it possibly being legal.
Too difficult?

**Scuba_Steve** · 16th September 2010, 19:37

Originally Posted by Dumpty

Just to clarify 100%...a Policeman can force you to stand still,helmet off whilst your photo is being taken even if you have NOT broken the law?

I cannot find any law that allows this. They can by all means take photos in a public place but you also have the option of covering yourself UNLESS being charged.

**Katman** · 16th September 2010, 19:42

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the photo side of this is all bullshit and was included by the OP simply in order to make the thread more interesting.

Hell, even I wouldn't willingly pose for my photo. (If I ever get to see my mugshot photo I'm sure it will show a definate unwillingness).

**Genie** · 16th September 2010, 19:45

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

I cannot find any law that allows this, would you care to share???. They can by all means take photos in a public place but you also have the option of covering yourself UNLESS being charged.

Where are you looking for this law?

**Scuba_Steve** · 16th September 2010, 19:46

Originally Posted by Genie

Where are you looking for this law?

legislation.govt.nz

**DMNTD:Me** · 16th September 2010, 19:47

Originally Posted by Katman

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the photo side of this is all bullshit was started by the OP in order to make the thread more interesting.

Hell, even I wouldn't willingly pose for my photo. (If I ever get to see my mugshot photo I'm sure it will show a definite unwillingness).

Yeah quite possible mate but not the first time I have heard of it so just attempting to get some clarification.
LOL...my mugshots were never too flash and would only be worse these days

**onearmedbandit** · 16th September 2010, 19:53

Originally Posted by Katman

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the photo side of this is all bullshit was started by the OP in order to make the thread more interesting.

Hell, even I wouldn't willingly pose for my photo. (If I ever get to see my mugshot photo I'm sure it will show a definate unwillingness).

I thought exactly the same the other night.

**onearmedbandit** · 16th September 2010, 20:25

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

But in a Democracy (which we like to think we're in) the people own the government bringing the road ownership back to us [the people] after all we're paying a fuck load for it.

& why do you not mind the WOF & Licence's check? Like I've mentioned this is pushing the right to be free from unreasonable search, as they are pulling you over to Search for a reason to charge you... Would you be so happy if they just came into your home to [again] Search for a reason to charge you whenever they felt like it???

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

It doesn't matter where the ownership lies, the result is still the same.

So let me get this right, are you also against RBT, because the police are pulling everyone over looking for the few drunk drivers at the expense of all the sober drivers?

And as far as them entering my home? Come on, lets be somewhat sensible about this. Your house is your private property, the police need good reason to enter and search. On the roads however, this ain't your private property any longer, you are using roads managed and policed by the government, and part of the agreement in using the roads is that they are used in a safe manner for all road users and members of the public, that your vehicle is of a certain standard, and that you have the right license to us the roads. None of this applies to your house.

Any reply?

**Max Preload** · 16th September 2010, 20:30

Originally Posted by Dumpty

Just to clarify 100%...a Policeman can force you to stand still,helmet off whilst your photo is being taken even if you have NOT broken the law?

No. S/He cannot. You are not obliged to participate, unless arrested, once you have been identified (which is what your photo drivers license does).

**NONONO** · 16th September 2010, 20:32

Originally Posted by riffer

Hi again, I've just got off the phone with the people in the know.

Whilst BRONZ may not support targetting of motorcyclists for revenue gathering, unfortunately look at the Coro Loops record. I must say this group has brought it upon all motorcyclists.

And one more thing... This cannot possibly be MSL funded as NOT ONE CENT has yet been allocated to be spent and likely WILL NOT untill well into 2011.

And furthermore, this has nothing at all to do with ACC. This is purely Police enforcement. It is constitutional in New Zealand that if you are in a public place you do not have the right to stop people taking a photo of you, eg Speed cameras and CCTVs in city centres. Like it or not, this is the way it is.

Absolutely Riffer, not one cent ha s been spent yet...YET?
What are you proposing to spend our money on..?
Nothing to do with ACC.

For gods sake, stop and think.......or piss or get off the pot.