The Hon. Judith Collins and her trusty coppers wonder why they have so little respect

[meteor]

Think the good one's far outweigh the bad. Thing is, the bad ones hit the media and every instance of a a wrong doing is pushed down everyones throat.
Look at this guy.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/vi...lery_id=114253
You can see he's given the case everything an slogged his guts out.. and it's taken a huge toll on him. Like that other guy on the north shore who headed the case of the girl in the drain. Good bastards. So where's the media about them and the thousands like them doing everyday stuff. There's a balance.. some get it wrong.... don't we all from time to time? Isn't is called being human? Lawyers, Dr's, Priests, builders, mechanics etc all get it wrong sometimes... where's the threads on them? Cop's are just an easy target for media I guess.

[baptist]

//respect needs to be earned, and the more incidents like this I hear almost daily now makes me cringe // NZIrish, you are bang on. In Shrub's case I think the Cop seems to have the idea that the uniform demands respect... sorry it does not. My father used to tell me that you earned a persons respect by the way you treat them, how did this "little constable" earn respect ? There are good cops and bad cops, Shrub, I think you met a bad one.

[beyond]

You got off lightly. He could have done you for unnecessary exhibition of acceleration if he really wanted to.

Shit, for real? What next? I suppose uneccessary cocking of ones leg over a motorised conveyance.

[SMOKEU]

Shit, for real? What next? I suppose uneccessary cocking of ones leg over a motorised conveyance.

Don't forget "operating a vehicle in a noisy manner". It's just another law invented purely so the cop can screw you over if you fail the attitude test and they can't find anything else to sting you for.

[red mermaid]

Oh, hell yeah, of course, its only cops that get really pissed about dickheads that put noisy exhausts on their cars and then roar around the streets all night.

[Max Preload]

Think the good one's far outweigh the bad.

In the proper Police, I agree. But in traffic Police, I disagree.

[MSTRS:Me]

In the proper Police, I agree. But in traffic Police, I disagree.

And how do you tell the difference? They all wear the same gang patch...

'Proper police' (GD) get assigned to traffic, but snakes only do traffic. If you were GD, and stuck on traffic, wouldn't you be pissed off and perhaps take it out on Joe Public? But if you were a snake, you'd tend to be a nazi prat anyway.
Either way, traffic cops are not generally going to make your day, are they?

[BoristheBiter]

And now this thread turns like any cop bashing thread into all about speeding.
At least it took 5 pages.

[scumdog]

And how do you tell the difference? They all wear the same gang patch...

'Proper police' (GD) get assigned to traffic, but snakes only do traffic. If you were GD, and stuck on traffic, wouldn't you be pissed off and perhaps take it out on Joe Public? But if you were a snake, you'd tend to be a nazi prat anyway.
Either way, traffic cops are not generally going to make your day, are they?

So, the ones that do traffic 50% of the time are only pissed of with Joe Public 50% of the time??

[miloking]

And now this thread turns like any cop bashing thread into all about speeding.
At least it took 5 pages.

Because NZ speeding laws are stupid, right now iam on a holiday in europe and its a dream over here as 140Km/h is a "cruising" speed on a open road...i agree its not neccesarily fault of NZ police but fault of public for being bunch monkeys who cannot drive for shit and NZ politicians who take the easiest way to reduce road toll ..imposing retarded speed limits and anti boyracer laws and other such travesties...

[Winston001]

Because NZ speeding laws are stupid, right now iam on a holiday in europe and its a dream over here as 140Km/h is a "cruising" speed on a open road...

You presumably only drive/ride on open main roads. There was a post on here a while back pointing out that the speed limits in France and Italy on secondary roads are often very slow by our standards and ruthlessly enforced.

[Winston001]

//respect needs to be earned.....

Ah yes, you see this is where it all goes wrong. No disrespect to you, many people now think the same but its wrong. In a decent society "respect" is given to every person you meet or come across until such time as they lose your respect. It is a fundamental right - and frankly, I try to apply it here on this forum.

Unhappily the upside-down ethic that everyone must earn respect has gained credence but only because people don't think it through. Would you push a granny out of a shop doorway? Rip off a 6 yr old? Hopefully not, because you respect them - even though you don't think about it in exactly those terms.

Respect everyone and they will come to treat you the same.

[miloking]

Ah yes, you see this is where it all goes wrong. No disrespect to you, many people now think the same but its wrong. In a decent society "respect" is given to every person you meet or come across until such time as they lose your respect. It is a fundamental right - and frankly, I try to apply it here on this forum.

Unhappily the upside-down ethic that everyone must earn respect has gained credence but only because people don't think it through. Would you push a granny out of a shop doorway? Rip off a 6 yr old? Hopefully not, because you respect them - even though you don't think about it in exactly those terms.

Respect everyone and they will come to treat you the same.

You are twisting the truth here....people respect most cops until cops open their mouth! Thats where they loose their respect and its all downhill from there...
Unfortunately i cannot respect someone who doesnt respect me and instantly assumes i am criminal scum and treats me that way....i should be treated as innocent until proven guilty and even then we are still talking about traffic offences not actual crime so why are traffic cops such a dickheads to people????

[miloking]

You presumably only drive/ride on open main roads. There was a post on here a while back pointing out that the speed limits in France and Italy on secondary roads are often very slow by our standards and ruthlessly enforced.

Well not sure about france as they are not normal people anyway... but speed limits "very slow by our standard" are hard to believe as we have lots of 80k zones everywhere so slower is not possible..
Of course i know that "speed nazis" are probably in every country just saying cops and punishments are bit more relaxed where i am right now....not sure if its police apathy or laziness over here.
(last week i was driven to/from Prague and spend most of the time at 180-220km/h in CLS350 and no cops bothered us at all...if we did same thing in auckland i would be probably talking to my lawyer thru hole in plexi glass right now...)

[shrub]

And now this thread turns like any cop bashing thread into all about speeding.
At least it took 5 pages.

No, not necessarily a cop bashing thread, more a criticism of some ridiculous attitudes by the police that do them no favours and have cost them a lot of respect.