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    Wink Northern toll road? No rego? Fines?

    does any one know if you ride on the northern toll road & pay your toll and your bike is not registered will the camera match your plate up and supply the info so you get a fine ???????? any one been caught ????? or is it not that smart yet ?

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    Don't think so.

    But can you shut up - don't give the bastards ideas.
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    If your bike is registered, who cares? if you want to break the law, take the consequences, simple really...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moroa View Post
    does any one know if you ride on the northern toll road & pay your toll and your bike is not registered will the camera match your plate up and supply the info so you get a fine ???????? any one been caught ????? or is it not that smart yet ?
    No. Speed cameras don't either.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    If your bike is registered, who cares? if you want to break the law, take the consequences, simple really...
    Why should we be singled out as a minority group and pay more than cagers? We're consuming fewer fossil fuels, polluting the environment less, doing less damage to the roads etc, so the government should be rewarding us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Why should we be singled out as a minority group and pay more than cagers? We're consuming fewer fossil fuels, polluting the environment less, doing less damage to the roads etc, so the government should be rewarding us.
    If they can catch bikes they can catch cars and I'm sure they wouldn't pass up the opportunity to catch unregistered cars as well. There're thousands more cars than bikes on the road. But regardless of that, it's still a simple answer, and that is register your motor vehicles....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    If they can catch bikes they can catch cars and I'm sure they wouldn't pass up the opportunity to catch unregistered cars as well. There're thousands more cars than bikes on the road. But regardless of that, it's still a simple answer, and that is register your motor vehicles....
    We can't all afford that. My bike always has a current WOF, and I always keep it to a safe WOF standard as best as I can, so are you saying I don't deserve to be riding a motorbike just because I can't afford the tax that goes with it?

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    I don't think so - but the cameras fitted are capable of average speed calculations (aka, they can be used to measure your speed over the length of the road, and not just the point they are located at). At the moment they only do tolling.

    But because they have this additional function, I think it is highly likely in the future that the tolling cameras will have their additional functions turned on.

    The Police have done some work already in NZ on cameras to automatically indicate plates of interest. However about 1 day of use generated about 1 week of paper work they picked up so much - so they have been looking at making them only look for plates for serious issues. Having Police spend 6 days in an office filling out forms is not an effective use of their time.


    But it does seem inevitable the whole process will become automated (which may require supportive legislative change), and at that point, it will be open slather. I'll guess 5 to 7 years away before wide spread adoption. Just a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Having Police spend 6 days in an office filling out forms is not an effective use of their time.
    Rumour has it that as long as that office time generates a lot of money, then it's a perfect use of police time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Rumour has it that as long as that office time generates a lot of money, then it's a perfect use of police time.
    Which is why they are changing to giving people demerits instead of fines ... so people can drop this rumour.

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    Public notification of the cameras location/existance means ... they can if they so desire ... and the video footage CAN be used in court as evidence ...

    The "filling out of form" is usually relegated to the NON-sworn staff ... perfect use of THEIR time ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    We can't all afford that. My bike always has a current WOF, and I always keep it to a safe WOF standard as best as I can, so are you saying I don't deserve to be riding a motorbike just because I can't afford the tax that goes with it?
    Yup! If you can't afford the cost of motoring, you can't afford to motor. You can afford a helmet, gloves, boots etc. and you can afford tyres and servicing and you can afford to maintain it up to WoF standard. You may not like the registration cost but it is part and parcel of motoring and if you thought it was important enough you would pay it. In short, you find the money to pay what you think is necessary and important. You'll have to pay the fines anyway, which is cheaper?
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    The popo have number plate cameras, they have been using them for quite a while now.In the small town i live in, they have been using them to iron out any bugs, so be warned, it wont be long till they roll them out mainstream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Which is why they are changing to giving people demerits instead of fines ... so people can drop this rumour.
    That's because the government lets unemployed people rack up thousands of $ worth of fines before they do anything about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Yup! If you can't afford the cost of motoring, you can't afford to motor. You can afford a helmet, gloves, boots etc. and you can afford tyres and servicing and you can afford to maintain it up to WoF standard. You may not like the registration cost but it is part and parcel of motoring and if you thought it was important enough you would pay it. In short, you find the money to pay what you think is necessary and important. You'll have to pay the fines anyway, which is cheaper?
    I bought the bike and gear before I was a poor student. I'm finding it hard enough to scrape up the cash to fill up the petrol tank, vehicle licensing is something I can't afford even if I wanted to pay it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    We can't all afford that. My bike always has a current WOF, and I always keep it to a safe WOF standard as best as I can, so are you saying I don't deserve to be riding a motorbike just because I can't afford the tax that goes with it?
    So your annual rego includes funds for things like ACC in case you have an accident, the wear and tear of a public shared resource - the road, the maintenance of the register so they know who is responsible for a vehicle, etc.

    So if you expect to be able to receive medical treatment for an accident on your bike, assistance if your vehicle is suspected of being stolen, and the use of a shared road with everyone else then you should be paying your rego.

    Like someone else has said, if you can't afford to pay the rego, weather you agree with the fee or not, you can't afford to operate that vehicle on the public shared road.
    Remember, the rego is a way we all contribute towards a shared resource - not something that only you use personally.

    Otherwise your bludging off everyone else who has paid to provide the resources that you are taking.

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