no they are there to do a job just like everyone else that goes to work.
Hardcore Biker
no they are there to do a job just like everyone else that goes to work.
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wow, you must not see what the police have to do / put up with in this country, also the fact NZ Police are the least corrupt force in the world. They put their life on the lines, get shot for people they don't even know. Please don't confuse traffic / front line cops with each other, no one likes getting tickets just don't break the law.Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve
I've had tickets, I pay them and move on. If you believe you are innocent then plead not guilty and move on.
Shesh strange how NZ has such low respect for police where the force is actually very good comparing to other places around the world. Everyone likes having everything their own way, problem with authority.
...and miloking obviously has some sort a grudge haha
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This is the bit that people tend to have the problem with.
The presumption of innocence does not apply in traffic matters. The court is not unbiased towards the defendant. All it takes is one cop (like that prick way down south) to level a bogus charge, and lie on the stand, and you're fucked. Plus it could cost you your house/livelihood/freedom to fight such a bogus charge.
Now, we all know that situation is a relative rarity in the scheme of things, but it is more common than you might think. And the system is geared not only to allow it, if not encourage it, but to protect it from exposure.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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I myself have pleaded not guilty to two traffic infringements and got both wiped, although these were council written ones but same thing both go to court. Cost me nothing just a letter with some backing up evidence, documentation, photo of parking signs etc.
People throw around the statement "just takes a cop to lie in court", but don't realize that's a massive step to take, huge consequences, loss of job / jail time, and more so for a police officer as they are sworn. If you believe you are innocent of an infringement ring the 0800 or write in a letter pleading your case, the payment date will only get extended so use that time to save some $$$, don't just throw up a stink be a cop hater and pay the fine.
Just concerns me that people loose respect for police because of traffic cops, as I said before there is traffic and there is front line. There's the ones who locks up the wife beaters child molesters rapists etc, then there's the ticket writers, not all in the same basket.
Looks like they may be separating the two again which could be good.
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There is talk of it. But how will we know? All new cars are decalled yellow/blue (was traffic only before). That is to keep people guessing. And once the mind games start...
The thing about GD and Traffic is that GD do both (or can), Traffic only do traffic
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Hardcore Biker
Plenty of them do just that, not all mind!! unless it suits their purpose, one word in a paragraph can change the whole context of a situation into something entirely different, it can then be fact or fiction ..'Truth or lie'
Consequences you have listed huh what a joke..even SD would laugh at that..
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NZ is one of the least corrupt countries in the world but leading our corruption list, yep you guessed it the NZ police beating even politicians & judges/lawyers (which do follow closely behind).wow, you must not see what the police have to do / put up with in this country, also the fact NZ Police are the least corrupt force in the world. They put their life on the lines, get shot for people they don't even know. Please don't confuse traffic / front line cops with each other, no one likes getting tickets just don't break the law.
I've had tickets, I pay them and move on. If you believe you are innocent then plead not guilty and move on.
Shesh strange how NZ has such low respect for police where the force is actually very good comparing to other places around the world. Everyone likes having everything their own way, problem with authority.
...and miloking obviously has some sort a grudge haha
Also I do know what they do (I am talking "front line" P.I.G.s during these discussions) Like I said I was planning to join them 'till I found out what they actually did.
& pleading not guilty & moving on is easy to say NOT so easy to do like I said if a P.I.G. shows up-to a court case you are automatically guilty before a word is said under our current system
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It would be nice to know that ALL road users are trained to a decent nationwide standard, not just those who choose to get further training.
Being taken out by some under-skilled "scratch-and-winner" is still possible.
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And if you do lose it, it is VERY difficult and VERY expensive to get it back!Enough of your crazy ideas!! The gubbinment knows better.
That would be "failure to keep left" and should be at ANY speed.
I had an interesting chat with a German fellow who sat his licence some years ago.
A minimum of 15 lessons from an instructor.
Specific areas of training (motorway, city, open road, parking, etc, etc).
NO family member allowed to train another.
The equivalent of 4 MONTHS pay to obtain the licence (reason to NOT do anything silly and lose it!).
Food for thought Mr Politician.
Hope you don't. I agree with your post.
It's funny how many get upset about being caught speeding. The law is there, everyone knows it, most drivers/riders are not nearly as capable as they like to think they are and you can't have two speed limits. Anyone with half a brain cell should understand the situation and be mindful that the road is not exclusively theirs and everyone has the same rights and responsibilities.
If you exceed the speed limit you may get a ticket, really, really simple to understand and deal with.
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Mr A.A.Thomas might not agree with you there...
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state funded holiday accomodation followed by state funded farm and light plane with money in the bank, seems like corruption worked pretty good for him .
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Talking of corruption, as it pertains to the cops...and the Thomas case, amongst others, before, since and ongoing...
It would seem that the corruption lies in one or two individuals, not the whole lot. Of course, the more cynical amongst us would simply say that those cops are selected to take the fall, when enough of the facts get out. Louise Nicholls had to have been damned inconvenient when she wouldn't accept a single cop as sacrifice. Still, we know how that one panned out...
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Hardcore Biker
Amazed that someone not in the Police can know day by day what each and every police officer does while at work.
As so often is the case I can assure you that you are completely wrong.
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Not according to the cops here that I know personally.
And typical of you to cherry-pick one thing I have said, and to criticise it. Evidence that cops do not employ the balance scales of justice
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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Correct. They do traffic AND donuts!!
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