Police crackdown

[doko]

Specifics?

Quick ride with a friend who wouldn't fit a helmet.... Gang members started signaling the cops where turning around and coming back for us...

Hit the gas as I went around a corner. Cops randomly speed up a side street caught up.. realized my friend had no helmet and we where on a 250 with plates on.

Gave up. My friend got a $50 fine.

[bogan]

I can't find the study now, I think it might have actually been in the AA mag or one run by them? not sure. But it showed in a car "bikers" (proper ones with engines) were the best drivers of anyone (general rule obviously) able to spot & avoid more hazards while maintaining greater control of the vehicle & less likely to panic. Also as this study was just about safety nothing about "speed" was not included so the "bikers" didn't lose points for failing to submit to propaganda (you know the thing that usually classes us as "unsafe").

Oh also the safest age group was mid-aged with 34 being the middle "safest"

intersting, though not surprising, I am way more paranoid when driving as I feel way more detached from it all in the van. Let us know if you figure out where that study is from...

[BoristheBiter]

I can't find the study now, I think it might have actually been in the AA mag or one run by them? not sure. But it showed in a car "bikers" (proper ones with engines) were the best drivers of anyone (general rule obviously) able to spot & avoid more hazards while maintaining greater control of the vehicle & less likely to panic. Also as this study was just about safety nothing about "speed" was not included so the "bikers" didn't lose points for failing to submit to propaganda (you know the thing that usually classes us as "unsafe").

Oh also the safest age group was mid-aged with 34 being the middle "safest"

Shit yer. I used to be a lazy driver until i started riding on the road, now I'm very aware of whats going on.

[MSTRS:Me]

Quick ride with a friend who wouldn't fit a helmet.... Gang members started signaling the cops where turning around and coming back for us...

Hit the gas as I went around a corner. Cops randomly speed up a side street caught up.. realized my friend had no helmet and we where on a 250 with plates on.

Gave up. My friend got a $50 fine.

So what you got done for was 'carrying a pillion = breaking licence condition'?
That's a $100 fine now. Not $400.
Or was there other things too?

[doko]

So what you got done for was 'carrying a pillion = breaking licence condition'?
That's a $100 fine now. Not $400.
Or was there other things too?

No no. I just had a learners car I have been driving my Audi on that for like 2 years now. I learnt to drive by just buying my own car and bike and driving. *sigh* *waits for moral shit storm about danger to the public even though I have never crashed*

[MSTRS:Me]

Ah. Now I understand. No class 6 at all.
Your total disregard for the law explains your attitude towards the footpath-riding scroterist.

[riffer]

Wairarapa Police are extending November's Motorcycle Focus Month throughout the summer months, to continue education around safe riding practices.

Sergeant Chris Megaw, head of the Wairarapa Police Strategic Traffic Unit says the focus month throughout November was a good opportunity to educate local motorcyclists about correct riding gear and riding style, making sure motorcyclists know the basics before getting behind their bike.

"Our focus over the summer months is to educate motorcyclists who tend to ride recreationally in the weekends, including riders from out of town. Our focus is not on issuing tickets but to ensure the safety of riders is paramount."

Sergeant Megaw says it's well known that the risk of a motorcyclist being killed or seriously injured in a crash is about 18 times higher than for someone driving a car.

"With the warmer weather we're having, we know there will be more recreational riders on Wairarapa roads and Police are doing all we can to ensure we keep road users safe this summer."

Last year, there were eight serious crashes in the Wairarapa involving motorcyclists or moped riders and Police do not want motorcyclists to be 'just another statistic' this summer.

For media queries, please phone Sergeant Chris Megaw at the Wairarapa Police on (06) 370 0300.

You have a name people. You honestly don't like what they are doing - call Chris Megaw. Let him feel the love...

but have a good reason for your call. If you have an alternative method to reduce the serious crashes this year I'm sure they'd love to hear it. Because there's a shitload worse things they could be doing to us.

[Ronin]

Ah. Now I understand. No class 6 at all.
Your total disregard for the law explains your attitude towards the footpath-riding scroterist.

Hi,
A new news release is available for you to view on the Police website:
Title: Wairarapa Police continue focus on motorcyclists
Wairarapa Police are extending November's Motorcycle Focus Month throughout the summer months, to continue education around safe riding practices.
Sergeant Chris Megaw, head of the Wairarapa Police Strategic Traffic Unit says the focus month throughout November was a good opportunity to educate local motorcyclists about correct riding gear and riding style, making sure motorcyclists know the basics before getting behind their bike.
"Our focus over the summer months is to educate motorcyclists who tend to ride recreationally in the weekends, including riders from out of town. Our focus is not on issuing tickets but to ensure the safety of riders is paramount."
Sergeant Megaw says it's well known that the risk of a motorcyclist being killed or seriously injured in a crash is about 18 times higher than for someone driving a car.
"With the warmer weather we're having, we know there will be more recreational riders on Wairarapa roads and Police are doing all we can to ensure we keep road users safe this summer."
Last year, there were eight serious crashes in the Wairarapa involving motorcyclists or moped riders and Police do not want motorcyclists to be 'just another statistic' this summer.
ENDS

Oh joy ever un-con-fucking fined.

[riffer]

Ah you just got the email too Ronin...

[Ronin]

Ah you just got the email too Ronin...

ahhhh yup.

[mashman]

Again, we are more likely to be SERIOUSLY INJURED is the correct wording to meet the true statistically proven facts

Less likely to be in a collision crash than a car/van/truck/bicycle is the true fact, in regards less or more likely to HAVE a crash well thats debatable, there are a lot of bike crashes that dont get reported apparently.......

I find it hard to believe that motorcycles are more likely to get seriously injured when the numbers say something entirely different.

Cars: 8017
Passengers: 3370
Above Combined: 11387
Motorcycles: 1369
Other: 1758
Total: 14541

According to here (Page 9) there were 2,425 (reported) SERIOUS injuries for the road in 2009.

Even if every single motorcycle injury was serious, there'd still be 1056 to be accounted for. There were 914 pedestrians and 825 cyclist reported injuries. They wear a lot less protective clothing than us, so I would imagine, being part of the road injury stats, that they'd accoutn for a fair amount too...

Me smells more dark brown male cow poo poo's from TPTB.

[MSTRS:Me]

Most of those peds and cyclists would have 'met' a car, so add them to the car stats = 13126.
Obviously making assumptions here, but that means that cars cause 10X the injuries that bikes do, but there are +20X the number of cars. In my book that makes motorcyclists 2x more likely to be hurt.

[Paul in NZ]

I dont generally get to riled up these days but what a bloody crock of shit. Safety my arse.... Whats the point in lecturing people (how ever nicely) who ARE riding safely? Wouldnt you be better in lecturing people who have just written off their motorcycle, got a speeding ticket or some such? Perferably before they get another one?

Personally I just wont go to the wairarapa on a motorcycle or for that matter any other vehicle and if I'm forced to it will be to travel through to some other place. I'd suggest you could tell that to the councils and cafe owners too. (erm, actually most of them will be happy that I'm not arriving I suspect)

[bogan]

Most of those peds and cyclists would have 'met' a car, so add them to the car stats = 13126.
Obviously making assumptions here, but that means that cars cause 10X the injuries that bikes do, but there are +20X the number of cars. In my book that makes motorcyclists 2x more likely to be hurt.

the way the quote is written it sounds more like if you are involved in a crash, a biker is 20x more likely to be hurt. Makes no mention of the rate at which the different classes crash.... but thats just my take on it

[BoristheBiter]

Most of those peds and cyclists would have 'met' a car, so add them to the car stats = 13126.
Obviously making assumptions here, but that means that cars cause 10X the injuries that bikes do, but there are +20X the number of cars. In my book that makes motorcyclists 2x more likely to be hurt.

You are missing the point of where the stats are coming from.
Registered cars/injury crashes is around .5%
registered bikes/injury crashes is around 10%

So therefore 20x more likely to be in a injury crash.

Its all just basic maths, its how they sell it thats the problem because if you use the formula its safer to be a pillion than a car passenger

Registered cars/injury passengers is around .11%
registered bikes/injury pillion is around .07%

so therefore nearly twice as likely to be injuryed as a passenger than a pillion.