A miner issue

[oldrider]

I'm glad we have the greenies to keep a lid on what could otherwise be a pretty destructive industry. We don't need coal bad enough that we need to dig big fuck off holes in such a lovely area. Not when we have people who'll risk their lives underground daily for a few bucks.

Well there are 29 less to do that kind of work now, (RIP miners) if it was open cast at least they would have had a better chance, even though the gas problem would probably have still been there!

They dug the tunnel because the greenies wouldn't let them dig a hole, simple as that and haven't they been quiet while this tragedy has been playing out!

The coal is a special high quality industrial "coking coal" used in industry, not simply for heating!

We sell it over seas and exchange is available for other goods like petrol, oil and tyres for our motorbikes!

A little bit of Green goes a long long way, too far in this country IMHO!

[scissorhands]

Hopefully then, some sort of compromise will happen either way, and open cast mining will not be so unnattractive to the public. Personally its a nice change from bush for me.

I grew up playing in disused quarries (Mount Wellington)as a kid all the fricken time, loved it. Couldnt wait to forget school and home life down the quarry with my mates. Ponds with ducks and eels, roads for our shitty bikes then motorbikes and cars when we were 14. Cool. Even took home a pet kid goat from the quarry to my parents horror.

[PrincessBandit]

national 2 minutes silence today at start of the service. I will be attempting to observe this with my class this afternoon.

[oldrider]

Probably the best bit of news seen in the media!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/201...site=gippsland

[RiderInBlack]

Probably the best bit of news seen in the media!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/201...site=gippsland

Today is about paying respect those that lost their lives in the Pike River Mine Tragedy & out of respect for them I'm ask you all to keep it to that at least for today.

[oldrider]

Today is about paying respect those that lost their lives in the Pike River Mine Tragedy & out of respect for them I'm ask you all to keep it to that at least for today.

The best respect that you can pay them is to see that it doesn't happen again and think clearly about why it did!

So many men, so many opinions, you have yours, I have mine!

[Skyryder]

[QUOTE=oldrider;1129922330]Well there are 29 less to do that kind of work now, (RIP miners) if it was open cast at least they would have had a better chance, even though the gas problem would probably have still been there!

They dug the tunnel because the greenies wouldn't let them dig a hole, simple as that and haven't they been quiet while this tragedy has been playing out!


Open cast mining 'never an option'

Pike River Coal chief executive Peter Whittall says open-casting mining at the site was never feasible because of the depth of the coal seam and the terrain.
It has been suggested that if Pike River had been an open-cast mine, the lives of miners would not have been at risk.
Mr Whittall says the seams are between 110 and 700 metres below the surface, because the size of the mountains above the seam changes.
Even if the mine was not under conservation land, he says, engineering issues would rule out an open-cast operation.

From
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/pike-r...ming-from-mine

Just putting the record straight OR


Skyryder

[oldrider]

Just putting the record straight OR


Skyryder[/QUOTE]

Welcome back Skyryder, good to hear you are back in the saddle, so to speak!

Don't come on here ruining my attack on the conservation and greenie movement though, they stifle too much industry and advancement in this flea bitten country that your Helen Clark wrecked for ever!

John Key is following her instructions on how to completely ruin the country and stuff up my motorcycle riding with their outrageous bullshit ACC charges too!

It has been quiet in your absence, we must get together again soon.

[RiderInBlack]

The best respect that you can pay them is to see that it doesn't happen again and think clearly about why it did!

So many men, so many opinions, you have yours, I have mine!

It seems some are at least doing that:

Open cast mining 'never an option'

Pike River Coal chief executive Peter Whittall says open-casting mining at the site was never feasible because of the depth of the coal seam and the terrain.
It has been suggested that if Pike River had been an open-cast mine, the lives of miners would not have been at risk.
Mr Whittall says the seams are between 110 and 700 metres below the surface, because the size of the mountains above the seam changes.
Even if the mine was not under conservation land, he says, engineering issues would rule out an open-cast operation.

From
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/pike-r...ming-from-mine

Just putting the record straight OR


Skyryder

Maybe next time you should too. More people should look to themselves before blaming others that had little or no involvement in what has befallen them.

[Skyryder]

Just putting the record straight OR


Skyryder

Welcome back Skyryder, good to hear you are back in the saddle, so to speak!

Don't come on here ruining my attack on the conservation and greenie movement though, they stifle too much industry and advancement in this flea bitten country that your Helen Clark wrecked for ever!

John Key is following her instructions on how to completely ruin the country and stuff up my motorcycle riding with their outrageous bullshit ACC charges too!

It has been quiet in your absence, we must get together again soon. [/QUOTE]


I agree that Key and co are ruining the country although they seem to be doing this without any help from Clarke.

I don't have a lot of truck with the Greens but their opposition to much of the environmental destruction for short term economic gains i can support.

Skyryder

[RiderInBlack]

I don't have a lot of truck with the Greens but their opposition to much of the environmental destruction for short term economic gains i can support.

Skyryder

Aye, Exactly.

[oldrider]

I don't have a lot of truck with the Greens but their opposition to much of the environmental destruction for short term economic gains i can support.

Aye, Exactly.

I don't have much truck with Greens and Conservationists either because they attract such a high percentage of the lunatic Luddite lefty brigade!

I do however, agree that there has to be some form of resistance to everything!

Life is about "living" and if there were no "today" there would certainly be no "tomorrow"!

Getting the balance is the hard part and the lunatic left are just as bad as the lunatic right, they just look and sound different to each other!

I like the world the way I want it of course, nothing selfish about that! .... is there?

[RiderInBlack]

Getting the balance is the hard part and the lunatic left are just as bad as the lunatic right, they just look and sound different to each other!

I like the world the way I want it of course, nothing selfish about that! .... is there?

Balance is the key to many things in life. That's why I have this in my Sig's:
"Whole life balance, Daniel-San" ("Karate Kid")
With trying to blame the Greens for the Pike River Tragedy, you were not showing any balance.
I don't mind you having the World the way ya want it, as long as it will still support life for long after you are gone and future Generations get to enjoy the beauty around you that you take for granted today. As a Species, We need to grow-up. It's a long way to the next habitable Planet, and we can't even get Astronauts to Mars yet.

[oldrider]

Balance is the key to many things in life. That's why I have this in my Sig's:
"Whole life balance, Daniel-San" ("Karate Kid")
With trying to blame the Greens for the Pike River Tragedy, you were not showing any balance.
I don't mind you having the World the way ya want it, as long as it will still support life for long after you are gone and future Generations get to enjoy the beauty around you that you take for granted today. As a Species, We need to grow-up. It's a long way to the next habitable Planet, and we can't even get Astronauts to Mars yet.

While I live for today, I also have a heavy personal investment in the future, three children and four grandchildren!

You can rest assured "I" never take "anything" in life for granted!

As far as I am concerned the conservationists and the Greens do have primary responsibility for the reason alternative means of reaching the Pike River Coal was even attempted the way that it was, the rest lays directly with the Pike River Company, that can not be delegated or passed on to anybody else!

All will be revealed eventually! Wax on wax off, Daniel - San!

[Winston001]

As far as I am concerned the conservationists and the Greens do have primary responsibility for the reason alternative means of reaching the Pike River Coal was even attempted the way that it was, the rest lays directly with the Pike River Company, that can not be delegated or passed on to anybody else!

John - Peter Whittle himself has said the Pike River mine could never have been open-cast. The coal is too deep. The fact it was developed as an underground mine has little or nothing to do with conservationists or greenies.

Its worth knowing 29 miners also died in a Virginia mine in April 2010. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/us...tvirginia.html Mining is still dangerous even with our advanced technology.