Hayabusa

[Nzpure]

BTW remember this thread wasn't about me getting a busa a? It was my father getting the busa who's had 30+ years of riding experience. The next bike im getting will probably be a Yammy V-star 650 sexy!!!!

[Gremlin]

Alright then, back to your father. Returning bikers have one of the highest incident rates amongst bikers. At the minimum, please make sure he understands this.

[nadroj]

And that his reactions won't be as good as he thinks they were!

[Nzpure]

Well whilst everyone has been telling me why i shouldn't get a busa my fathers moved his sights to a different bike, I'm not sure what it is but its essentially a naked Goldwing. What does everyone think of those bikes?
While riding the ducati i think the riding position has set his sights on more of a custom/tourer riding style.

[Marmoot]

its essentially a naked Goldwing.

Honda Valkyrie? They are great bikes if you like touring and staying on the motorway. Not so bad in the twisties, but definitely not a sports or sports tourer bike.

Much better handling than a Harley Davidson for sure.

And it wheelies just fine. Plus, it was actually good fun and giggles on Puke track.

[sinned]

It seems your old man needs to take a few smaller bikes for a test ride and then he will appreciate how much bikes have improved and how much more power they have. Old riders (I am one but consider myself past the returning bit now) have no idea of how much power and acceleration a litre sports bike has. Until they ride one they think they will be able to handle power and nothing is too powerful? Well sorry to disappoint but most big bikes have more power than most riders can use - even in a straight line.

My advice, having done the return thing and starting back on too big a bike (SV1000S), is get a 600 to start with. What I miss, having sold a speedtriple for a busa is the fun of working the bike up through the gears on full throttle. I did that a lot on the speedy - but the busa just accelerates too hard and goes far too fast in 2nd and 3rd let alone the next 3 gears. However, it is a great bike to ride and do the longer runs on. I just need another bike for the fun stuff - a 600 would be nice.

[Marmoot]

Funny that despite the Hayabusa's speed potential and the design, it is mostly enjoyed by the more-sedate and mature tourer riders rather than the speed junkies.

The speed addicts normally go with the 600s, or 1000s pure sportsbike, regardless whether they are canyon carvers or straightline rocket highway riders.

[Stylo]

Funny that despite the Hayabusa's speed potential and the design, it is mostly enjoyed by the more-sedate and mature tourer riders rather than the speed junkies.

The speed addicts normally go with the 600s, or 1000s pure sportsbike, regardless whether they are canyon carvers or straightline rocket highway riders.

And most of the replies here comparing the 'Busa to a sports bike seem to have overlooked the massive torque difference between the two types , it's the torque that pulls your pants down on the 'Busa from early Rev's that takes your breath away and it keeps your pants down all the way through. Plus the extra CC's ...of course.....

An R1 or a GSX100 etc are great fun but you need to rev them to the moon to have some fun. That's a short stroke race derived motor for you = a different kettle of fish so don't just look at peak HP numbers . From memory a 'Busa has around 30% +
more torque than 1 liter Bike and even more than a ZX14, but not much more.

I'll stand to be corrected but the current model 'Busa has an even higher compression ratio than a cross plane R1 , Only my 5 cents ...;-)

[Marmoot]

And most of the replies here comparing the 'Busa to a sports bike seem to have overlooked the massive torque difference between the two types , it's the torque that pulls your pants down on the 'Busa from early Rev's that takes your breath away and it keeps your pants down all the way through. Plus the extra CC's ...of course.....

An R1 or a GSX100 etc are great fun but you need to rev them to the moon to have some fun. That's a short stroke race derived motor for you = a different kettle of fish so don't just look at peak HP numbers . From memory a 'Busa has around 30% +
more torque than 1 liter Bike and even more than a ZX14, but not much more.

I'll stand to be corrected but the current model 'Busa has an even higher compression ratio than a cross plane R1 , Only my 5 cents ...;-)

You are correct, in numbers.
But for everyday, to most of us mundane mortals the difference in pull on wide-open throttle between modern litre bikes and Hayabusa would be minimal. At least this is what I got from my 2005 Hayabusa vs. 2005 CBR1K. And as far as speed goes, CBR1K didn't have any problem reaching 295kph at all (speedo-indicated, of course). Both bikes have the torque curve vs. weight so high above the level where most of us would be able to discern.

[ducatilover]

Wait a sec.... the 95 gpz1100 (detuned ZZR1100 motor? 129hp) with a d2 turbo on it? Were the D2's ever made with turbos? They were introduced in 38 and my memory doesn't serve any reference to a turbo d2 model, either way, any turbocharger off a large diesel wouldn't work. Many would be water cooled, one problem, the A/R would be bloody massive when you would struggle to spool up a small turbo (td04/ IHI rhb51)

Anyway, stupidity aside. The Busa will be spastic after nigh on anything.

I call the BS card anyway

[popelli]

the only real hayabusa is parked up in a aircraft museum in wanaka, its so rare they can't get insurance to fly it, but it taxis quite happily about 6 foot clear of the runway

all the rest are mere imitations

[Toaster]

Funny that despite the Hayabusa's speed potential and the design, it is mostly enjoyed by the more-sedate and mature tourer riders rather than the speed junkies.

The speed addicts normally go with the 600s, or 1000s pure sportsbike, regardless whether they are canyon carvers or straightline rocket highway riders.

Agreed, well said.

[blackdog]

Wait a sec.... the 95 gpz1100 (detuned ZZR1100 motor? 129hp) with a d2 turbo on it? Were the D2's ever made with turbos? They were introduced in 38 and my memory doesn't serve any reference to a turbo d2 model, either way, any turbocharger off a large diesel wouldn't work. Many would be water cooled, one problem, the A/R would be bloody massive when you would struggle to spool up a small turbo (td04/ IHI rhb51)

Anyway, stupidity aside. The Busa will be spastic after nigh on anything.

I call the BS card anyway

pretty sure there was a mid-eighties gpz750 turbo from the factory?

[BMWST?]

No. The difference is that on a big bike you've attained those speeds in five seconds in first gear, instead of thirty-plus seconds in sixth gear with your valves bouncing out the top of your airbox.

are you mad?Any modern 1000 cc plus bike will do way way over 100 k in first....,prolly in about three seconds(or less)

[vifferman]

LOLzah. All this talk about "the old man", and I was thinking about this old dude wobblingly getting used to riding a modern speed demon. Then I realised I'm actually older'n him.