Read it. Pay attention.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Some of you guys really make me laugh. While the original message is clear and great, some of the comments since are total shit.

An 'accident' can be caused by many things. Just because stupidity, carelessness and neglect often top the list, doesn't mean we can avoid them. We're human. We're not robots. We ALL make mistakes. Some of those mistakes have deadly outcomes...but they were still mistakes. Pre meditated murder is generally the only time one intends to kill another.

A friend of mine once had an accident with a very large, super sharp knife. She's a massively intelligent woman. But she knocked the kife off the table. There were kids about, and she instinctively tried to catch the knife, and sliced her finger open big time. Is she stupid? A mouth breathing inbred as James might put it? Nope. She fucked up in a very small way, and paid the price. Could've stabbed one of the kids in the head. That'd be far worse.

You people that live in your glass houses better be real friendly with a glazier. Because I'd be willing to bet my balls there isn't one of you that is mistake free. Especially when you were young enough to get a hard on.

[MSTRS:Me]

To what ends? How far would you push that reasoning? Would you have us carry out an in-depth risk assesment before each move? How much time and effort do we spend now to avert the one-in-a-million chance? And yes there is an answer to that, and everyone's answer is different and only slightly amenable to control.

I guess they are just labels.
But I don't like the term 'accident' to describe a road smash.
To say "But it was an accident" suggests that nothing could have been done to avoid it happening. We all know that that is not the case - in almost every single event.

[superman]

Sadly lately it seems after causing carnage they just walk away.Mind you we live in a country that sees fit to lower the driving age,give licences to people that cant speak English let alone read it, then theres the gaps between any meaningful tests for elderly drivers.

Wow, agism and racism all in one nice little bundle. Kudos

[James Deuce]

Some of you guys really make me laugh. While the original message is clear and great, some of the comments since are total shit.

An 'accident' can be caused by many things. Just because stupidity, carelessness and neglect often top the list, doesn't mean we can avoid them. We're human. We're not robots. We ALL make mistakes. Some of those mistakes have deadly outcomes...but they were still mistakes. Pre meditated murder is generally the only time one intends to kill another.

A friend of mine once had an accident with a very large, super sharp knife. She's a massively intelligent woman. But she knocked the kife off the table. There were kids about, and she instinctively tried to catch the knife, and sliced her finger open big time. Is she stupid? A mouth breathing inbred as James might put it? Nope. She fucked up in a very small way, and paid the price. Could've stabbed one of the kids in the head. That'd be far worse.

You people that live in your glass houses better be real friendly with a glazier. Because I'd be willing to bet my balls there isn't one of you that is mistake free. Especially when you were young enough to get a hard on.

Ahhh selective quoting is a wonderful thing. I throw stones at my own glass house, in case you struggled to read between the lines.

"Mistakes" are just an excuse to not take the business of sharing the road seriously. I'm tired of being fucked over because I trust people.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ahhh selective quoting is a wonderful thing. I throw stones at my own glass house, in case you struggled to read between the lines.

"Mistakes" are just an excuse to not take the business of sharing the road seriously. I'm tired of being fucked over because I trust people.

Not at all Jim...but I'm sorry it took that to get a reply out of you on this site.

Funnily enough...I have tipped a bike over when my laces got caught on the gear lever...so that makes me a mouth breathing inbred. But I did notice you made mention of your incident. That has nothing at all to do with my other comments...they weren't aimed at you.

By the way...I have been fucked over many times because I trust people. On a couple of occasions, it's nearly cost me my job.

[Ocean1]

But I don't like the term 'accident' to describe a road smash.

So much is evident. Takes more than that to change the meaning of a word, though.

To say "But it was an accident" suggests that nothing could have been done to avoid it happening. We all know that that is not the case - in almost every single event.

Hear that noise? It's the sound of minds closing en mass. Resorting to euphemisms and slogans in a paltry attempt at social engineering does that. If the pro's can't use that trick with any success then you won't change other peoples behaviour either, trust me.

[Swoop]

Head on crashes? -> Spend more money developing dual carriage ways and instaling concrete median barriers.

Why does this country need to spend vast amounts of money on median barriers? We have a captive workforce that could produce concrete median barrier sections at a "cost" rate of just the materials used.

Get prisoners contributing to this society.

[James Deuce]

Not at all Jim...but I'm sorry it took that to get a reply out of you on this site.

Funnily enough...I have tipped a bike over when my laces got caught on the gear lever...so that makes me a mouth breathing inbred. But I did notice you made mention of your incident. That has nothing at all to do with my other comments...they weren't aimed at you.

By the way...I have been fucked over many times because I trust people. On a couple of occasions, it's nearly cost me my job.

Again I was talking about my own experiences. Everything in that post were stupid things I've done. I don't need to point fingers, I have plenty of ammunition of my own. You can chose to take it personally if you wish.

I see people do the same frigging "mistakes" over and over without a care in the world. Do they not know what they're supposed to do or do you think it's more likely that they don't give a shit? The latter is more likely.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Again I was talking about my own experiences. Everything in that post were stupid things I've done. I don't need to point fingers, I have plenty of ammunition of my own. You can chose to take it personally if you wish.

I see people do the same frigging "mistakes" over and over without a care in the world. Do they not know what they're supposed to do or do you think it's more likely that they don't give a shit? The latter is more likely.

So if you've done so many stupid things, you're bloody lucky not to have killed someone. I know I am.
And yes...some people keep doing stupid things. They need to be removed from our roads. But they have (well some of them anyway) licences...so it's hard to get rid of them now. We need to make it a shitload harder to get a licence in the first place. But that will never remove the human element from 'accidents'.

As much as we'd all love to see it, we'll never have a zero road toll.

[Katman]

As much as we'd all love to see it, we'll never have a zero road toll.

Nobody's ever asked for a zero road toll.

A vast improvement would be sufficient.

[BMWST?]

Nobody's ever asked for a zero road toll.

A vast improvement would be sufficient.

we have had a vast improvement,it has been in the 6 and 700s....

[Crasherfromwayback]

There are also a shitload more people on our roads now. So all in all...we probably are improving.

[Katman]

There are also a shitload more people on our roads now. So all in all...we probably are improving.

You sound like you're happy with the standard of driving/riding on our roads.

[neels]

Human beings are human.

If you drop a brick on your foot, trip climbing up a step, or hit your thumb with a hammer does that make you a retard?

Occasionally humans get things wrong, when there are bad consequences it's unfortunate, but it's still an accident. Yes, any accident is preventable, but to what lengths do you go to?

[Crasherfromwayback]

You sound like you're happy with the standard of driving/riding on our roads.

Really? Guess it depends on how you like to read things. Not that you'd know or care...but I've been taken out by bad driving over the years. Nearly killed in fact. I may yet lose my right foot due to a silly thing someone else did. I also could've killed others when I was younger and dumber. But as badly as that sucks...it's also life.

Do you want to live...or live forever? 'Living' comes with risks. Living forever could bore you to death, and make you a boring cunt at the same time. People make mistakes. Those that claim they don't, aren't human, or they're full of shit. We can only do our best. It's just that some peoples best is better than others.