135kph speeding ticket - cop guesstimate?

[Corse1]

I passed a car yesterday doing 75 in 80 zone. When i arrived home after this short 40k ride i checked my top speed on the trip computer expecting to see 104km as this is the fasted I remembered travelling. To my surprise it registered 115kph. The only time this could have occured was when I passed the car.

Thats 35 over the limit of 80 and really surprised me as I it didn't feel as if I had increased speed that much. This is similar to your situation although I did not get caught.

I also wrote a letter for another offence where I was unfairely given a ticket recently. The reply was "this is not the forum for disputing an offence" In other words do it in court.

[Scuba_Steve]

I think you are stuffed, but I apply your logic when overtaking as well. If a car is doing <= 90kph (I know you said 95kph) - i will overtake it. I do this as quickly as possible to reduce the time in the oncoming lane. Sure - I could overtake at 99kph and sit in that lane for 5+ seconds - but is that any safer? The other option is just to chill and follow at 90kph.

AA study showed if a car is doing 80km/h and you overtake at the legal 100km/h it will take you 20secs to do so or 556m (656m if doing so with 100m clear road ahead) thats a hell of a long time to be on the other-side of the road or a pretty close on most passing lanes (lower NI ref) & everyone else is then still stuck behind them, so if it was really about 'safety' passing at the speed limit is unsafe, "speeding" to get pass them is the safest thing you could do. But then we all know too well safety has nothing to do with this scam its all about the $$$ (and their study was done with actual speed not speedo speed)

[EJK]

Admit it. We all speed.

[MSTRS:Me]

Hmmm...



I've had accurate readings at 1.7km....

Perhaps. I wasn't disputing the accuracy of the speed reading...
Did the car? you clocked have a calibrated speedo? Was it done as some sort of test, using a fellow cop? There were no other factors at work, like a closer vehicle travelling obliquely to you?
I would dispute your equipment being able to separate a car AND a bike travelling side by side at any distance from you.

[scumdog]

Perhaps. I wasn't disputing the accuracy of the speed reading...
Did the car? you clocked have a calibrated speedo? Was it done as some sort of test, using a fellow cop? There were no other factors at work, like a closer vehicle travelling obliquely to you?
I would dispute your equipment being able to separate a car AND a bike travelling side by side at any distance from you.

It was Mr Joe Average and square onto me - not off to one side by any more than the width of the road (we DO have some straight bits down here) and no other vehicle involved so I knew whose speed it was.

And it's not that tricky with two vehicles - the gizmo on the dash sez 'fastest' on one reading of the two showing - and hopefully that means the one doing the overtaking..

[Dare]

It was Mr Joe Average and square onto me - not off to one side by any more than the width of the road (we DO have some straight bits down here) and no other vehicle involved so I knew whose speed it was.

And it's not that tricky with two vehicles - the gizmo on the dash sez 'fastest' on one reading of the two showing - and hopefully that means the one doing the overtaking..

Ever seen the car being overtaken speed up dramatically?

[scumdog]

Ever seen the car being overtaken speed up dramatically?

Not that I have ever noticed - and I doubt if it would be believable that in this case the vehicle being overtaken sped up so much that the original poster HAD to do that speed to pass it.

[imdying]

I was on my Buell

So I accelerated from 100 to 135 in 2 seconds? Even an R1 isn't that fast.

You've really gotta get off that old vtwin piece of poo

[imdying]

115 or 135 either way its still over the limit. You do the crime then do the time. Simple really.

Bit like clipping a cheeky bitch in the side of the face with an open palm or taking her for a drive up Godley Head and raping and killing her... Either way, it's still a crime, no matter which one they nail you on.

No matter to them maybe... why should he take more punishment than he has earnt?

[terbang]

Bit like clipping a cheeky bitch in the side of the face with an open palm or taking her for a drive up Godley Head and raping and killing her... Either way, it's still a crime, no matter which one they nail you on.

No matter to them maybe... why should he take more punishment than he has earnt?

Sure, but doesn't the fine rise with the speed?

100KPH=0 fine
115KPH=X fine
135KPH=XX fine
140KPH=XXX fine and loss of licence.

In other words, the faster you go the bigger the mess (on your finances that is).

Cop says 135 and he says 115. He can argue the point for 115, but he's still going to cop some sort of a fine.

[scumdog]

Sure, but doesn't the fine rise with the speed?

100KPH=0 fine
115KPH=X fine
135KPH=XX fine
140KPH=XXX fine and loss of licence.

In other words, the faster you go the bigger the mess (on your finances that is).

Hmm, often use that quote whenthe speeder I pulled over turns out to be disqualified, has no WOF or rego (and now and then is drunk)

Mostly they say "Huh? wot mess" and look around.

[wysper]

Hmmm...



I've had accurate readings at 1.7km....

Genuine question, how do you know the readings are accurate?

Don't know why hes crying 135 Yawn...I got done for 293kph plus, they reckon.

Now I have a shinny new pushbike ! ! !

Crazy Steve.

LOL, you will be safe from that speed on the DR! infact probably both those speeds

[pritch]

Buy a radar detector.

Wot he said.

Almost any modern big bike would get to 135 passing a car no trouble. Just as well it wasn't a truck, you'd have been doing 160.

Then again you could consider yourself fortunate, 5 kph more and you could have been walking home. Look on the bright side

Don't trust the advice of those friends of yours too much. You can ask (nicely) to see the radar reading but he is not required to show you.

[DMNTD:Me]

Ever seen the car being overtaken speed up dramatically?

Dozens of times hence why I choose to take my chances and over take pro actively.
If it's seen to be dangerous (my speed) then so be it, at least i felt safer doing it.
It's called the wrong side of the road for a reason eh

[Brian d marge]

Its not the point

car going at 95 , on a NZ road ... here I assume there was plenty of visibility and light traffic, if at all.

bike comes up behind car , then gives it a squirt to overtake then settles back to 100 or even slightly faster ..104.329 km/hr

riding in a , again assumed responsible manner .

and he gets pinged.


Revenue gathering


Now if rider had over taken in an unsafe manner , lecture , and check bike ,,, ( Help the community )
then let him on his way

now if rider had been a COCK , throw the book at him , USE the law

Before anyone starts , 100km is to fast in some places , NZ driver are 100ft tall and bullet proof and its never their fault etc

but the current approach to the horrendous crime of speeding , is all bollox and only there to keep the medical bills down .. nothing more nothing less

Stephen

and remember THX 1138 we will look after you


pps

you always try this excuse

A top Auckland policeman caught speeding yesterday told the officer who stopped him he was tracking a vehicle of "operational interest'' at the time.