Interesting article on traffic lights

[rastuscat]

It should be. Then there is the added time where all of the lights are red. It is practically impossible to cross an intersection legally, ie at the end of the green phase or just as they change to amber/yellow, and get hit by crossing traffic that pulled away on their own green.

The yellows in Chch are based on 4 seconds. That's the 50 km/h ones.

The ones on our arterials are longer, say 4.5 to 4.8. The main road ones are 4.8.

The only one less than 4 is Pilgrim Place. It's off Moorhouse Ave, it's only 100 metres long, and nobody gets to 50 on it. That's 3 seconds.

It is speed related, but also crash related. Don't forget that there is normally an all-red dwell before the next phase starts.

And yet we still have crashes where both parities claim to have had green lights.

Yeah right.

[rok-the-boat]

Hard to know which is more worthy of a darwin award, the one that ignores the red or the one that believes the green.

I'm sorta in the treat them like fuckwits and that's how they'll behave camp. And damn, the sheer quantity of spurious signage makes for quality fuckwits.

Spot on - I never trust green, even more so as a pedestrian.

[rok-the-boat]

How many people jump the light just before it turns green?

Now that is the quickest way to hell, literally.

[bogan]

The yellows in Chch are based on 4 seconds. That's the 50 km/h ones.

The ones on our arterials are longer, say 4.5 to 4.8. The main road ones are 4.8.

The only one less than 4 is Pilgrim Place. It's off Moorhouse Ave, it's only 100 metres long, and nobody gets to 50 on it. That's 3 seconds.

It is speed related, but also crash related. Don't forget that there is normally an all-red dwell before the next phase starts.

And yet we still have crashes where both parities claim to have had green lights.

Yeah right.

then theres the likes of the one before the welli motorway, on a hundy kmh section of road, hope thats longer than 4 seconds!

Now that is the quickest way to hell, literally.

I sometime start moving just before the green, but I make damn sure the other guys are not even there or well stopped, do the same checks if it goes green while filtering through. Once I had almost started to move on a green, then noticed some people mover come flying through the rad and turn right across my nose, highlights the benefits of double checking!

[sinned]

then theres the likes of the one before the welli motorway, on a hundy kmh section of road, hope thats longer than 4 seconds!

I sometime start moving just before the green, but I make damn sure the other guys are not even there or well stopped, do the same checks if it goes green while filtering through. Once I had almost started to move on a green, then noticed some people mover come flying through the rad and turn right across my nose, highlights the benefits of double checking!

I never start moving until it is green and I have done a final fraction of a second check each way. If you move and then have to stop there is a high chance of the vehicle behind running up your rear.

That wellington set of lights - I slow down to around 90 clicks if the green is stale.

[scumdog]

I never start moving until it is green and I have done a final fraction of a second check each way. If you move and then have to stop there is a high chance of the vehicle behind running up your rear.

That wellington set of lights - I slow down to around 90 clicks if the green is stale.

Lights?
Traffic lights?

We banned traffic-lights in Riviera of the South because they were an absolute frippery...and a waste of time.

[Berries]

We banned traffic-lights in Riviera of the South because they were an absolute frippery...and a waste of time.

And the locals kept nicking the bulbs for the roller disco.

[superman]

How many people jump the light just before it turns green?

Driving at night time through Auckland is hell. During the day it's bad enough but at least your stopping at reds for a reason (traffic). At night I have no idea why they don't all flash orange to indicate give way rules when there is no traffic. You sit waiting for ghosts to appear, fucking ridiculous living in an age where I can talk to someone on the other side of the world yet I have to bloody wait for some loony light to change to tell me when I'm allowed to go. My brain functions perfectly fine (at least to my knowledge) and I can see I'm safe to drive anyway you BASTARD COUNCIL!

I swear they just want my brain to fizzle

So on a night such as that, yes quite often beat the green altogether, if I see no car anywhere. Especially a little parked popo . During the day I fiddle around in my car at a red. If I gota wait I might as well do something, often sending a txt. As long as I know the traffic lights aren't going to change for a while, wonder if a cop would ticket me for txting at a red... But usually don't move till green.

On bike at a red it's good fun to stare down the driver who just cut you off. Even more fun to put down your stand and get off the bike, just to stretch

[Mully Clown]

I hate it when the green is too short. Manchester/Moorhouse corner this evening, turning right into Manchester St. I'm sitting there with a green light and a red arrow. Then the red arrow disappears, I take off and within 1.5s or so the whole lot has gone orange. Should've left the red arrow up the whole time.

[idleidolidyll]

I think in Holland pedestrians are legally deemed always in the right regardless of road markings or the lack thereof.

Therefore, if a car hits a pedestrian: the driver is presumed guilty until theybprove themselves innocent.

That should be the case for trucks down through vans, cars, motorbikes, bicycles and pedestrians in that order of liability

[rastuscat]

I hate it when the green is too short. Manchester/Moorhouse corner this evening, turning right into Manchester St. I'm sitting there with a green light and a red arrow. Then the red arrow disappears, I take off and within 1.5s or so the whole lot has gone orange. Should've left the red arrow up the whole time.

The length of phasing is controlled by a computer sitting in the council building on Hereford Street.

Factors deciding phase length include time of day, demand (as determined by in-road sensors), donut sales, quota demands and luck.

I guess there must have been a dount sale in the square, and the lights changed to let the Popos get there for their quota.

[Mully Clown]

The length of phasing is controlled by a computer sitting in the council building on Hereford Street.

Factors deciding phase length include time of day, demand (as determined by in-road sensors), donut sales, quota demands and luck.

I guess there must have been a dount sale in the square, and the lights changed to let the Popos get there for their quota.

The popo was coming straight through the intersection from the other side. Thankfully I stopped for the orange before I had gone right out into the intersection.