National opens ACC to private sector

[MSTRS:Me]

ACC's brand is damaged. I know too many people that would prefer to go private, so the "demand" is there...

The 'damage' was set up by successive ACC ministers and puppet boards in order to make next step (opening up/selling) more palatable to us. In fact such a good job was done that, not only does it seem more palatable, but is being demanded by many.
Short sighted fools...

[mashman]

The 'damage' was set up by successive ACC ministers and puppet boards in order to make next step (opening up/selling) more palatable to us. In fact such a good job was done that, not only does it seem more palatable, but is being demanded by many.
Short sighted fools...

nothing like continuity to get the best value for money I quite fancy a position on the ACC board

[StoneY]

Get behind ACC Futeures peoples this lobbying group has asked directly for biker support via my BRONZ role

http://issues.co.nz/accfutures

[Brian d marge]

all I can say is:



Stephen

[StoneY]

all I can say is:



Stephen

Oooo a traffic stopper for sure!

[Winston001]

The 'damage' was set up by successive ACC ministers and puppet boards in order to make next step (opening up/selling) more palatable to us. In fact such a good job was done that, not only does it seem more palatable, but is being demanded by many.
Short sighted fools...

LOL I don't think so but good on you.

The truth is that by 1990, many ordinary people considered ACC claims to be a rort, just like bogus insurance claims and dodgy tax deductions. Almost everyone knew a fellow-worker who was on compo and away for a looong time. And laughing about it in the pub.

So the government dramatically changed the ACC Act, doing away with lump sums, and making it harder to be on claim. ACC from then forward actively tried to get people back to work or into another job.

Hard to argue with that. The problem then became that genuine injuries were sometimes not recognised, or diagnosed as existing conditions not caused by the accident. For example, I have calcification around my C4 neck vertebrae - which is also the vertebrae I broke in my bike accident. What is the cause of long-term problems - age or accident??!!

[eelracing]

For example, I have calcification around my C4 neck vertebrae - which is also the vertebrae I broke in my bike accident. What is the cause of long-term problems - age or accident??!!

Well if it's affecting your work performance i'm sure your employers (private insurer designated)doctor will be well schooled-up on how to handle that wee problem.

[Scuba_Steve]

Raise costs cut services... its the Capitalist way

The growing number of people declined surgery by the ACC have little chance of getting treatment in the under-resourced public system, orthopaedic surgeons say.

Stuff Article

[avgas]

ACC Futeures

Poor choice of name really.....or is it exactly what they mean it to mean.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futures_contract

[avgas]

Decision to privatise ACC a bad one say nurses

From New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO).
Humph, most of the ones ((Nurses) I work with have no idea that this is happening right under their noses.

Hmmmmmm.....
On one hand nurse demand more pay and leave the country.
On the other they say everything is fine and they will stay here and would like to keep ACC.

I wonder what the nurses whom have left NZ thing about ACC becoming privatized? Seeing as most have gone to countries where it is privatized (or semi-privatised like Aussie).

[avgas]

Nahhhh, that's what Umbrella Companies are for

But don't worry, the blanket agreements will keep you warm.

[RiderInBlack]

I wonder what the nurses whom have left NZ thing about ACC becoming privatized? Seeing as most have gone to countries where it is privatized (or semi-privatised like Aussie).

I'll bet almost none of them. All the Nurses I know that have gone overseas, have gone chasing promises of better pay. Yet we have almost more overseas born nurses working in my ward now than NZ born Nurses. They have come here for the life-style that we take for granted. A life-style that we are loosing one piece of Legislation at a time. Wake-up NZ.

[mashman]

Raise costs cut services... its the Capitalist way

Stuff Article

That may as well have been written about any insurance company ... let's just fuck the brand a bit more and add a few "privisos" in there, so that the people get used to receiving treatment that reflects both public and private sector "schemes"... gotta feel for those who pay their levies and still get told to fuck off...

[avgas]

I'll bet almost none of them. All the Nurses I know that have gone overseas, have gone chasing promises of better pay. Yet we have almost more overseas born nurses working in my ward now than NZ born Nurses. They have come here for the life-style that we take for granted. A life-style that we are loosing one piece of Legislation at a time. Wake-up NZ.

The overseas ones coming here is a no brainer.
Less Population.
Better access to better countryside.
Better place to raise kids.

I doubt many would come here for free healthcare......why not Canada, China.....

However the ones we are losing overseas, for better pay.......would they come back if they got it here?
If they were paid more would they stay?

Can they receive more pay if it stays under government control?

[StoneY]

Can they receive more pay if it stays under government control?

Mate I just escaped a tenure at MOH so have a pretty solid view on the situation coming
The incomong CEO is a well known axe man who cut Scotlands health system to shreds, axed THOUSANDS of Nurses in Scotland and got a huge bonus for doing so................