High speed racing bike vs car

**Marmoot** · 17th January 2011, 19:30

Originally Posted by YellowDog

Those 911s don't corner well. With the way he was fighting the wheel and his poor cornering lines; if it wasn't for stability controland active suspension, he'd have been off the road.

His cornering seemed to get better as the video progressed.

IMHO, probabbly a little fast given the amount of traffic on the road.

It looks like a GT3, and what looks like a bumpy road. The suspension would be too hard as it is designed for track (or smooth Euro roads) use.
A bit like using MotoGP bike on Isle of Man TT race, I bet (oh would love to see that, wouldn't we?

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**racefactory** · 17th January 2011, 19:35

Originally Posted by Kickaha

On that road they might, anything with a decent amount of corners, especially slower ones the bikes would get dicked

Maybe with you riding buddy.

**gatch** · 17th January 2011, 19:40

It's hard to argue with physics..

F1 vs motogp ? Top fuel rail vs top fuel bike ?

The deciding factor being tire contact patch and down force..

**Kickaha** · 17th January 2011, 19:40

Originally Posted by racefactory

Maybe with you riding buddy.

You obviously don't have to much of a clue about fast cars

**onearmedbandit** · 17th January 2011, 19:45

Originally Posted by racefactory

Maybe with you riding buddy.

Think about it for one minute. Think about the 4 large contact patches compared to our two small patches. Then think about all the electric aids a car like a late model 911 has. You'll out drag him out of a corner, maybe. You'll get him on the straight, until really high speeds are on. But you'll get destroyed on the brakes and corner speed.

**racefactory** · 17th January 2011, 19:48

Originally Posted by gatch

It's hard to argue with physics..

F1 vs motogp ? Top fuel rail vs top fuel bike ?

The deciding factor being tire contact patch and down force..

Yeah that's mad downforce don't be rediculous. Aerodynamics more advanced than fucking planes. A road car on road legal tyres will hardly pull any more lateral G than a sports bike if any. With top tyres in steady hands a sportbike will hit nearly 1.2 and sustain close to that... love cars, love bikes butplease don't get me started.

Comparing F1 to Motogp is so juvenile I don't want to even start. Motogp are barely any faster than world superbikes around most tracks with off the shelf Pirelli Diablo slicks. Compare it to something at least resembling road cars like JGTC/GT500 or FIA GT and you'll then see a reasonably fair 'comparison'. Those cars barely share any originality with their road counterparts anyway (different engines shifted rearwards, 330 section tyres, dog engagement transaxles, entirely carbon fibre body) and SBK bikes of a fraction the price will still lap the same as them.

**bogan** · 17th January 2011, 19:50

Originally Posted by gatch

It's hard to argue with physics..

Oh i dunno, it ain't too hard to get into an argument, but it's pretty fucking hard to win one

**Dave-** · 17th January 2011, 20:11

Originally Posted by Kickaha

On that road they might, anything with a decent amount of corners, especially slower ones the bikes would get dicked

yeah the GT3's nick superbikes around ruapuna....

**gatch** · 17th January 2011, 20:18

Originally Posted by racefactory

Yeah that's mad downforce you idiot. A road car on road legal tyres will hardly pull any more lateral G than a sports bike if any. With top tyres in steady hands a sportbike will hit 1.2 and sustain near that... love cars, love bikes butplease don't get me started.

Comparing F1 to Motogp is so juvenile I don't want to even start. Motogp are barely any faster than world superbikes around most tracks with off the shelf Pirelli Diablo slicks. Compare it to something at least resembling road cars like JGTC/GT500 or FIA GT and you'll then see a reasonably fair 'comparison'. Those cars barely share any originality with their road counterparts anyway (different engines shifted rearwards, 330 section tyres, dog engagement transaxle tranny, entirely carbon fibre body built for downforce) and SBK bikes of a fraction the price will still lap faster than them.

Don't be ridiculous.

Ok, all ridiculousness aside.

Fastest lap at manfield is set by a go kart..

**racefactory** · 17th January 2011, 20:21

Originally Posted by gatch

Ok, all ridiculousness aside.

Fastest lap at manfield is set by a go kart..

go karts are totally insane... awesome.

**gatch** · 17th January 2011, 20:30

Originally Posted by racefactory

A road car on road legal tyres will hardly pull any more lateral G than a sports bike if any. With top tyres in steady hands a sportbike will hit nearly 1.2 and sustain close to that...

You can sustain 1.2 lateral G at 250kph plus ?