Announcement on ACC funded $2m scheme

[98tls]

It has been said before. NONE of those people you mention represent me. I am not a member of ANY of their organisations. How then do I have any say whatsoever in how my money is spent. I DONT!

BTW I am quite well educated thank you very much.

I hear that,i am well sick of hearing about some organisation or individual speaking on behalf of motorcyclists,load of fucking bullshit,most of them ive never heard of christ i wouldnt bother ever again ever going on an organised "group ride" let alone let a group of them speak for me.Motorcycles are dangerous its not rocket science,if you dont like the odds dont ride em if you do ride and shut up.In 2009 according to ACC 621 people died in there own home 50% or a tad more than the road toll,632,920 people injured in there own home,one every 54 seconds,fuck me bikes are the least of our worriesAll these buggers wanting to speak for the world should maybe look at "safety in the home" rather than tarting on about motorcycles.

[rustic101]

And this is a big problem because if you are proven to be right they may just well decide that we're not worth allowing to continue our practice.

Real helpful.

FWIW I disagree. And I find this "extra layer of burearacy" a whole lot more positive than another bunch of anti-speeding ads or simply spending 2 million dollars on some more hidden speed cameras.

Start preparing your submissions.

I do believe we will have to agree to disagree

For the record speeding is not killing us!!! I know that for a fact. Riders death rate is actually ok (not a great thing to say for anyone that has lost a loved one) compared to other road users - this includes the fact they have 'farm' motorcycle deaths included in the figures on that beehive website stat section.

We; rider inattention, ego and immaturity (even at 45 lol) Even with crap roads, great tryes, etc etc etc it is our minds that must control our ride, a split second misjudgment will kill us or others...

Again we will have to agree to disagree

[Shadows]

*One old Kenworth and an 800hp Jiffy saw and I'd be finished in a month.*

I'd give you my 30 bucks to see that.

Who's in?

[Morcs]

Like seriously what good is the safety campaing going to do for experienced riders?

Those who've been riding a while, encountered every type of near miss, and already had a good string of accidents in their younger years DO NOT need to be told the dangers of motorcycling.

However,

Where i do think something will benefit is that 50cc moped riders that only have a car license and hence have not undertaken ANY kind of motorcycle test or training whatsoever.
Funnily enough though, I was at Scootling the other week (scooter shop opposite red baron in grey lynn auckland) and there was a petition on the front counter AGAINST the implementation of a test and license for said 50cc riding fucktard-muppets - even if the license thing goes ahead, I think a good deal of this campaign should be aimed DIRECTLY at them.

[Kickaha]

I think a good deal of this campaign should be aimed DIRECTLY at them.

Why? are they the guys who're having single bike crashes and killing and injuring themselves?

[riffer]

Like seriously what good is the safety campaing going to do for experienced riders?

Well, here's an idea.

We know there's a certain part of a road that's generating a problem, for whatever reason. We make submissions to the MSF. The MSF agrees and commissions an engineering report for Transit to create a realignment on the road. Said report raises the stakes for Transit causing the road realignment to be brought forward as it's a "safety" issue.

End result, a spot which was potentially hazardous to motorcyclists becomes sorted a lot faster.

[Muppet]

Whatever happens, they are only getting 6 months worth of rego from me ie $331 instead of $591, childish but it makes me feel better.

[rustic101]

Why? are they the guys who're having single bike crashes and killing and injuring themselves?

In a word 'yes' and their riding behavior is appalling. You only need stand on a street in Wellington and observe. Flip Flops, heels, bare skin, no gloves and over riding for the stopping capacity. I'll not mention their riding skills either.

They come off so much worse even at the posted speed limit...Now this alone is more of a drain on the ACC fund.

[Kickaha]

In a word 'yes' and their riding behavior is appalling. You only need stand on a street in Wellington and observe. Flip Flops, heels, bare skin, no gloves and over riding for the stopping capacity. I'll not mention their riding skills either.

They come off so much worse even at the posted speed limit...Now this alone is more of a drain on the ACC fund.

Regardless of their riding behaviour they're only a cost to ACC if they crash

The majority of accidents where single bike accidents have either killed or seriously injured someone that get reported on here or in the media aren't scooter related

[bogan]

Well, here's an idea.

We know there's a certain part of a road that's generating a problem, for whatever reason. We make submissions to the MSF. The MSF agrees and commissions an engineering report for Transit to create a realignment on the road. Said report raises the stakes for Transit causing the road realignment to be brought forward as it's a "safety" issue.

End result, a spot which was potentially hazardous to motorcyclists becomes sorted a lot faster.

I think we can agree that the money will benefit motorcyclists to some degree, but so would having that 30 bucks in my pocket still (along with the other 150 odd they raised it by too!). Is there any reason why these motorcycle safety initiatives can't come from the same fund as cage safety initiatives?

[Squiggles]

I think we can agree that the money will benefit motorcyclists to some degree, but so would having that 30 bucks in my pocket still (along with the other 150 odd they raised it by too!). Is there any reason why these motorcycle safety initiatives can't come from the same fund as cage safety initiatives?

Existing initiatives do... Having $30 back in your pocket would benefit A motorcyclist, not necessarily motorcyclistS

[98tls]

Well, here's an idea.

We know there's a certain part of a road that's generating a problem, for whatever reason. We make submissions to the MSF. The MSF agrees and commissions an engineering report for Transit to create a realignment on the road. Said report raises the stakes for Transit causing the road realignment to be brought forward as it's a "safety" issue.

End result, a spot which was potentially hazardous to motorcyclists becomes sorted a lot faster.

Yep wonderful,lets rid NZ of any roads with bends in em.Cheers.

[fossil]

Yep wonderful,lets rid NZ of any roads with bends in em.Cheers.

How about corners with one apex not 3 or 4?

[hellokitty]

Cancer - 146/week
Suicide - 10/week
Cars - 7/week
Bikes - 1/week
Murder - 0.9/week

Ooooohhhh those damn bikers! Unacceptable!!

Thanks for the stats - I know I will need them when the people in my life start on about the 1 biker per week dying.

(holy crap! suicide 10 per week that is so awful)

[Tink]

Did anyone mention training the human race, how to cross the road safely, how to indicate, how to keep their eyes peeled, how to ignore kids while driving, no smoking or cells in cars... patience... god help me I hope this and more is in the new ACC THING!!!

Dream on!