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[blackdog]

Duno, haven't looked at teh specs and, as I say I haven't pushed it much.

Wot, with not wanting to die an' all...

if she's stock you'll be running outta puff around 240-245

let us know how you get on

[The Stranger:Me]

Still way to obvious for ya is it!
If they obey the speed limits and all other road laws and still die, then it won't be their fault.

Shit it's not so obvious to me.
I mean either way they're still dead right?
So would I feel any different if I'm dead and it's my fault or not my fault?

[Quasievil]

Speeding tickets are voluntary

[miloking]

Can someone please look at fucking statistics on HOW MANY motorcyclists killed OTHER road users due to speeding (or being at fault)....because i have a sneaky feeling its NONE! (so fuck your 51% vs 49% of whos at fault)

So am i being told how to ride to protect other road users?...oh thats right, nanny state is protecting my wellbeing! Well fuck it i didnt ask for it (and pay my ACC from wage) so mind you own fucking business...

[BoristheBiter]

Can someone please look at fucking statistics on HOW MANY motorcyclists killed OTHER road users due to speeding (or being at fault)....because i have a sneaky feeling its NONE! (so fuck your 51% vs 49% of whos at fault)

So am i being told how to ride to protect other road users?...oh thats right, nanny state is protecting my wellbeing! Well fuck it i didnt ask for it (and pay my ACC from wage) so mind you own fucking business...

How about protecting you from the other road users on the road??

Fuck you can be a dumb muppet at times.

[miloking]

How about protecting you from the other road users on the road??

Fuck you can be a dumb muppet at times.

Muppet or not, you missed my point... no amount of legislation is going to protect me from other road users, also shouldnt there be two sets of speed limits then??? one for motorcyclists (since we only endanger ourselves = our choice) and one for car/truck/bus drivers since they are danger to everyone else?

[DougieNZ]

Thanks for the replies - and for quite a few illustrating my point so well!

[BoristheBiter]

Muppet or not, you missed my point... no amount of legislation is going to protect me from other road users, also shouldnt there be two sets of speed limits then??? one for motorcyclists (since we only endanger ourselves = our choice) and one for car/truck/bus drivers since they are danger to everyone else?

The cost of cleaning up a dead body off the road is around 300k.

you put that money up and ride as fast as you like, but you might take someone else out, maybe your pillion so then it would be 600K, you can get it back if you don't die.

Sound like a plan??

[Quasievil]

The cost of cleaning up a dead body off the road is around 300k.

Bollocks............

[miloking]

The cost of cleaning up a dead body off the road is around 300k.

you put that money up and ride as fast as you like, but you might take someone else out, maybe your pillion so then it would be 600K, you can get it back if you don't die.

Sound like a plan??

300K to pick up/bag & tag a body? Realy how do you even justify that amount....

as much as i wouldnt want to be doing that job myself and have some respect for the people that have to go knock on the door of the relatives.
300k sounds bit steep also with pillion it cant simply be just double price since they will already have all the brooms to sweep up the road already with them, so no extra call out...its just one extra black bag to bring with them

fuck it, iam happy to share black bag with my pillion if it saves tax payer money (only if its a girl, otherwise that would be gay)

[Scuba_Steve]

The cost of cleaning up a dead body off the road is around 300k.

you put that money up and ride as fast as you like, but you might take someone else out, maybe your pillion so then it would be 600K, you can get it back if you don't die.

Sound like a plan??

300K? how da hell is it that inefficient & expensive? give me 69K per body & I'll go round doing it that's a 231k per body saving

[Katman]

Ditto and well put, Odd phrase Mr Kat,I'm sure the type of rider you frequently disparage in these pages 'feel safe' when riding.

Do I feel safe when on my bike? Apart from when I'm sitting on her in the garage going, "Brmmm, brmmm, brmmm", NO!

I always feel slightly nervous. I'm always scanning looking out for things like potholes, tar weeps, white paint if it's wet, shingle, if that upcoming corner is safe at this speed, cars which might pull out of a side street or a parking space, cars which might turn across my path, pedestrians who might step out. When I'm on my bike I'm as aware as I can be.

Don't go mistaking my feeling of being 'safe' on a bike as an indication of me being unaware. It is the very fact that I am totally aware of my surroundings and confident in my ability to compensate for the inadequacies of other road users that allows me to feel 'safe'.

I don't buy into the "Motorcycling is dangerous" theory. It has inherent risks (but so does getting out of bed each day) that can be minimised by good management.

[Ronin]

Bollocks............

Pretty sure they are included in the price.

[BoristheBiter]

300K? how da hell is it that inefficient & expensive? give me 69K per body & I'll go round doing it that's a 231k per body saving

police, SCU, ambos, fire. ACC payout

It takes a lot more than most of you realize. Its not just put a body in a bag and drop it off at the next of kin with a note.

[Scuba_Steve]

police, SCU, ambos, fire.

It takes a lot more than most of you realize. Its not just put a body in a bag and drop it off at the next of kin with a note.

but its not 300k to clean-up a body is it these groups are getting paid regardless they could all be sitting round eating donuts and drinking coffee and we'd still be paying 300K or near to it.