Mom on Breakfast TV1

[Ocean1]

stubborn bastards still won't drink...

...intervention plan...

Read my lips: There is no problem relating to routine behaviour that is amenable to regulation by legislation.

If you feel some desperate need to improve road safety then look at making the roads safer.

[AllanB]

Mom, I think you did well on TV - you'd need to drag me kicking to be on it - well that business lady could probably easily convince me ......

Seems to me, if we put half as much effort into reducing accidents as we do analysing numbers, we'd have the problem solved by now.

True.

[Berries]

Read my lips: There is no problem relating to routine behaviour that is amenable to regulation by legislation.

What I was implying is that it is no use targeting all riders over forty with the same magic solution if some have been riding regularly and safely for over twenty years, and others only three months. And I agree, legislation would not be the answer anyway.

If you feel some desperate need to improve road safety then look at making the roads safer.

There will always be poorly aligned roads in NZ with decreasing radii combined with shitty chipseal and roadside objects that will kill you in an instant. There isn’t the money to make them all ‘safe’, whatever that term really means.

[Ocean1]

What I was implying is that it is no use targeting all riders over forty with the same magic solution if some have been riding regularly and safely for over twenty years, and others only three months. And I agree, legislation would not be the answer anyway.

Yup, might work on children, not adults. And before someone else points it out it doesn't work on old children either,

There will always be poorly aligned roads in NZ with decreasing radii combined with shitty chipseal and roadside objects that will kill you in an instant. There isn’t the money to make them all ‘safe’, whatever that term really means.

But there's be a fucking sight more if they didn't spend most of the budget on extensively teraforming SH1 and liberally sprinkling it with yet more signposts.

[martybabe]

But there's be a fucking sight more if they didn't spend most of the budget on extensively teraforming SH1 and liberally sprinkling it with yet more signposts.

Most assuredly, I did a 550k run today and for the most part the roads were nothing short of shocking, at one point I was axle deep in loose rock, not gravel, shingle or fines, an untented kilometer of calf deep rock lumps.

We could debate forever what contributes to the unacceptably high crash rates but ultimately it is subjective opinion, quite warped in some cases, here however we have a very real and tangible threat to motorcyclists safety that could be rectified.....so we'll just ignore that because it costs money and continue happily calling each other names....cause that'll really help.

[StoneY]

Yeah we're working on that one too Steve, it's the age-old problem of leading the horse to water though - the stubborn bastards still won't drink...

Education, not legislation, will save lives.

They do if you block their nostrils.

[Mom]

Mom, I think you did well on TV - you'd need to drag me kicking to be on it - well that business lady could probably easily convince me ......
True.

Thank you, I admit to being a tiny bit peeved that Corin was not interviewing me

However, I came away with a totally new respect for Petra.

Read my lips: There is no problem relating to routine behaviour that is amenable to regulation by legislation.

If you feel some desperate need to improve road safety then look at making the roads safer.

Most assuredly, I did a 550k run today and for the most part the roads were nothing short of shocking, at one point I was axle deep in loose rock, not gravel, shingle or fines, an untented kilometer of calf deep rock lumps.

We could debate forever what contributes to the unacceptably high crash rates but ultimately it is subjective opinion, quite warped in some cases, here however we have a very real and tangible threat to motorcyclists safety that could be rectified.....so we'll just ignore that because it costs money and continue happily calling each other names....cause that'll really help.

We have recognised this as a REAL issue for bikers and have developed this campaign in an atttempt to get the authorities to sit up and listen. It works! I have had members tell me just how quickly councils step up if they actually know there is a problem. If they dont and we find out about it, Rest assured we will step up and amp up the pressure. If everyone used the report a road campaign it would really let the powers that be know we are serious about at least one aspect of improving our safety by being proactive in reporting problems.
http://www.mag-nz.org/campaigns/report-a-road

[martybabe]

We have recognised this as a REAL issue for bikers and have developed this campaign in an atttempt to get the authorities to sit up and listen. It works! I have had members tell me just how quickly councils step up if they actually know there is a problem. If they dont and we find out about it, Rest assured we will step up and amp up the pressure. If everyone used the report a road campaign it would really let the powers that be know we are serious about at least one aspect of improving our safety by being proactive in reporting problems.
http://www.mag-nz.org/campaigns/report-a-road

Now that really is useful, especially if they do something about it, I wonder if there is a limit to how many roads you can report Cheers Mom x

[86GSXR]

Nice one Anne Yep, you're right, all these increased motorcycle levies are discrimatory. It seems to me that we'd be better off scrapping increases for specific user groups and focus instead on a single payment for every citizen.

A compulsory $500.00 PA from every man, woman, and child in the country taken out of wages, benefits, working for families or whatever ones income source is is still $2b and that covers cyclists, parachutists, homeowners, multiple vehicle users and everyone else who has an accidental injury. Might even have something left over.

And I'm buggered if I'm going to pay rego on both my bikes this year, sod that.

[Owl]

And I'm buggered if I'm going to pay rego on both my bikes this year, sod that.

If you like, I can paint some stripes on the Daytona. Who the fuck would then argue that it's not a Tiger?

[Mom]

Now that really is useful, especially if they do something about it, I wonder if there is a limit to how many roads you can report Cheers Mom x

My fervent hope is that every biker reports every road they find over, and over again. Imagine it. We will log each one if you let us know that nothing is done after you complain. The NZ map will start to show which councils actually give a shit about biker safety. using this we should be able to really identify the real problem issues and put a bit of pressure on TPTB to actually DO something. Spread the word...

[Edbear]

Thank you, I admit to being a tiny bit peeved that Corin was not interviewing me

However, I came away with a totally new respect for Petra.

We have recognised this as a REAL issue for bikers and have developed this campaign in an atttempt to get the authorities to sit up and listen. It works! I have had members tell me just how quickly councils step up if they actually know there is a problem. If they dont and we find out about it, Rest assured we will step up and amp up the pressure. If everyone used the report a road campaign it would really let the powers that be know we are serious about at least one aspect of improving our safety by being proactive in reporting problems.
http://www.mag-nz.org/campaigns/report-a-road

Petra's a sweety, but she's also a pretty switched on person.

My fervent hope is that every biker reports every road they find over, and over again. Imagine it. We will log each one if you let us know that nothing is done after you complain. The NZ map will start to show which councils actually give a shit about biker safety. using this we should be able to really identify the real problem issues and put a bit of pressure on TPTB to actually DO something. Spread the word...

Good idea! Even if not on the bike, I can be aware of road conditions that will affect bikers.

Looks like it'll be the MX5 to Paeroa this month...

[Mom]

Looks like it'll be the MX5 to Paeroa this month...

Be great to see you down there. And yes, Petra is something a bit different to what I was expecting, the girls were beside themselves to meet her

[Edbear]

Be great to see you down there. And yes, Petra is something a bit different to what I was expecting, the girls were beside themselves to meet her

Be good to get back there again!

I think Petra and Corin will soon make the show their own. I like them both and Nadine is kinda gorgeous too... Haven't been in there for a while. Last time I called in I met Suzanne Paul on her way out. Got a very friendly welcome every time. Must pop in again soon.

[Usarka]

My fervent hope is that every biker reports every road they find over, and over again. Imagine it. We will log each one if you let us know that nothing is done after you complain. The NZ map will start to show which councils actually give a shit about biker safety. using this we should be able to really identify the real problem issues and put a bit of pressure on TPTB to actually DO something. Spread the word...

+1. Management 101, if you can't measure it you can't change it......