Police say had the rider been wearing...

[monkeymcbean]

Will have mine in black ta.

Awwha, yeah hiz viz green will look shite with a yellow bike, mines yellow too, i reckon the hiz viz pink will be okay thou....looks like there will only be two colours to choose from .
In reality I hate high viz vests, if I had to wear one I would, I like my bike riding.
Until then I try to wear plain bold contrasting colours (not to much pattern), have high intensity discharge light kit, and ride defensively to the best of my ability.

[Fluffy Cat]

I wear a Technics high vis jacket, white helmet and ride a bright orange 990 ktm(that you can't turn the lights off).
I still seem to be completely invisible to car drivers?. Though the police do see me and stop me as often as possible to check my rego.
Twas a dumb thing to say and reminds me of the self righteousness shown at the Buller Gorge incident, when the cop told the severely injured rider...he was speeding!.

[CHR1S]

Correct....and by accumulating 95 demerit points you are obviously not looking around enough yourself.

[Katman]

Twas a dumb thing to say and reminds me of the self righteousness shown at the Buller Gorge incident, when the cop told the severely injured rider...he was speeding!.

And interestingly enough, one of the motorcyclists admitted on a radio interview after the court case that they were, in fact, speeding.

[Brian d marge]

The police report on I could find doesn't give any details

so

It was his time to go , and I would wish that on me worst enemy ( wife maybe ) but never on another human being

Moving away from this case to driving in general , couple of points

a light truck Mitzi canter? how in the good name of the man upstairs do u hit one of those

a u turn? forget the witch hunt , think about the logistics of hitting a small truck

you know deep in your heart the answer ,

The answer from the police , well not very responsible , but as has been said some people can hit a train ( and the speed of a NZ train is?? ours do 300 km/h 100 on a branch line with level crossing ,,,and you lot seem to be better at hitting them !) so a hi viz ,while it MAY have helped is just pure speculation ( if it prevents another accident then it may have been helpful ..)

My suggestion .. just a suggestion , loose the I'm an important individual mentality ( i m right your wrong ) and just let other road users ,,,( why am I bothering , you ll never understand it anyway ,,,,,,) just let the other road users do what they want to do , read the traffic ,,and life will be sweet ,,,

Have a think ,

we are all just as bad , and my deepest sympathies go towards both the rider and the driver ,

before I sign off , and before you reach for the sanctimonious shit button , I have done the same thing , double decker bus , I DIDN'T see it and pulled out in front , broke its headlight , and I accelerated past the Enterprise faster than my wife get to the bank on pay day

Stephen

[Drew]

Gee, the truck driver has almost been forgotten about in this 'lets bash the cop for saying a really naughty thing' thread,

The thread was started to point out the stupid statement on the news. Not the truck drivers visual impairments.

And interestingly enough, one of the motorcyclists admitted on a radio interview after the court case that they were, in fact, speeding.

Yep, and I know the person the cop was doing a u-turn to chase. He was speeding too, but the cop did a u-ee on a blind corner, 15-30km/h was not gonna avoid that crash.

[Smifffy]

And interestingly enough, one of the motorcyclists admitted on a radio interview after the court case that they were, in fact, speeding.

Interestingly enough, that ex-cop was disqualified for drink driving. He should never have been allowed to operate a motor vehicle, much less one equipped with disco lights.

[Katman]

Interestingly enough, that ex-cop was disqualified for drink driving. He should never have been allowed to operate a motor vehicle, much less one equipped with disco lights.

He was still right about the speeding though.

[Fluffy Cat]

And interestingly enough, one of the motorcyclists admitted on a radio interview after the court case that they were, in fact, speeding.

Yep, I was speeding the other day...51kph in a 50 zone....
Your point?......

[Naki Rat]

What's really happening here is that someone at Police HQ is on a high-vis vest buzz.

It's filtering down inasmuch as cops don't leave their desks these days without putting one on, and it's also filtering down via these comments every time someone not wearing a high-vis is involved in a crash on the road.

When you get a memo every fortnight reminding you that if you don't put your high-vis on and something happens it's YOUR BLOODY PROBLEM, it's hard to step back from that and see anything else when you see a road crash involving a man not wearing a high-vis.

This conjecture is based on comments made by the cop who attended the crash where a taxi u-turned into me and my bicycle on Quay St a few months back.

So, y'know. Take it as you will. I don't think the cops really think it was the rider's fault. They just have high-vis vests on the brain.

Personally, I love high-vis vests, but only at sporting events. They give one the magic superpower of impersonating a marshal and bypassing closed-road barriers.

Actually wearing a high-vis when just riding around normally is gay. Also, getting hit by a u-turning vehicle is a lame way to go.

Requiescat in pace, n00b.

A glimmer of truth amongst all the static on this thread
In our ever more safety conscious society the burden of self responsibility is magically lifted by donning the appropriate PPE (Personal Protection Equipment). If you're wearing your helmet, leathers, gloves, boots, shin protectors, body armour, back protector, hi-viz vest, and generally enough equipment to protect you from heavy arms fire, what could possibly go wrong Self responsibility - WTF is that?

[monkeymcbean]

Given the heat of the thread.

That is what angers me.

Don't make me hungry, you wouldn't like me when I'm hungry!

Gosh! these words and energy expressed here similar to other posts, should not be wasted in a internet blog site, but taken and fronted up to the people like the media who choose to selectively repeat what they think will sensationalise a event/accident.
ACC, government ministers, we might make a difference by acting, instead of getting angry behind a computer screen.

[avgas]

- Hi Viz would not have prevented the crash
- Cops are simple humans. Trust them as much as you trust a politician.
- The truck driver is going to feel like shit
- The family will feel like shit
- Who does a u-turn in front of a truck?
- Which lesson is more valid here?

Always where hi-viz incase a truck hits you
or
Never trust what a cop says?
or
Don't u-turn in front of a truck?????

I know what I won't be doing from now on

[\m/]

Headlights are more visible than hi-vis vests, I can see headlights from a few kms, but can't see what the rider is wearing until they get to a few hundred metres from me, the police haven't got a fucking clue. Also, Twatman is a fucking hypocrite, with 95 demerits he obviosly doesn't practice what he preaches.

[Katman]

- Hi Viz would not have prevented the crash
- Cops are simple humans. Trust them as much as you trust a politician.
- The truck driver is going to feel like shit
- The family will feel like shit
- Who does a u-turn in front of a truck?
- Which lesson is more valid here?

Always where hi-viz incase a truck hits you
or
Never trust what a cop says?
or
Don't u-turn in front of a truck?????

I know what I won't be doing from now on

Ya might just want to rethink that post.

[Drew]

Gosh! these words and energy expressed here similar to other posts, should not be wasted in a internet blog site, but taken and fronted up to the people like the media who choose to selectively repeat what they think will sensationalise a event/accident.
ACC, government ministers, we might make a difference by acting, instead of getting angry behind a computer screen.

Trust me, I hide behind fuck all, 's why I don't use a pseudonym.

I am as energetic in my view nomatter the stage.

But putting me in front of the media, or minister only creates a negative headline. Something along the lines of..."Angered motorcyclist lashes out at public figure". Not the generally accept productive kinda thing.