Do MNZ officials have to conform to rules?

[Shaun]

Ah well you know the old saying, "just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they are not after me ! "

That must come from your ACID days eh

[ajturbo]

Just a thought after a couple of instances that happened on the weekend. Is there anything a rider can do if they are hindered by an official acting outside the rules?

I dont even know what the actual ruling is but it pissed me off no less, I stopped in the pits on the warm up lap to do something to my bike. The MNZ official wouldnt release me or Nick Cole onto the track because he felt our tyres were not warm enough?? After we had finished arguing the pack was around the 3rd turn!! This didnt effect my result so I never took it any further.

The other was an incident I heard about involving Luke Burkhart at Woodville getting disqualified by jumping the start. Now im not sure of the ruling etc or the circumstances around Lukes incident but it got me thinking is there any thing a competitor could do about such an incident? Lets say an official cocked up and gave say Andrew Stroud a black flag by mistake while he is leading a race, could he protest and take the win still even after the first lap???

sorry matey.. but i just have to laugh about you being stop for cold tyres... will they next stop you for having wet/dry ones if it is dry/wet..

tell that person your doing a formal complaint... that will fuck em

[CHOPPA]

sorry matey.. but i just have to laugh about you being stop for cold tyres... will they next stop you for having wet/dry ones if it is dry/wet..

tell that person your doing a formal complaint... that will fuck em

hahaha Na all good, I just blow shit out of proportion when im pissed off

[oyster]

Kinda funny if it were not so sad eh Shaun
On KiwiBiker a couple of years ago Shaun was being encouraged to get involved with MNZ and he responded by saying he couldn't because he'd be soon arrested for assaulting the CEO (Paul Pavletich)
Old dumbarse me replied by offering to pay his bail money in advance.

Next thing a letter from MNZ "you have offered monetary reward to someone to assault an employee of ours thus" blah blah and after an apology on this site and to the man, I got fined $250 which they said would go to Junior Road Racing
For about the last year I've been chasing up where the money went. Paul Stewart keeps promising but no delivery. Kev Goddard say the money is gone and now the accounts are closed for the year it is not recoverable

So there we are, believe it or not.

[discodan]

I think they would have to know the rules first Chop!

When the MNZ rep at a National series actually admits to not having a rule book, you know this sport is in trouble.

[Shaun]

I think they would have to know the rules first Chop!

When the MNZ rep at a National series actually admits to not having a rule book, you know this sport is in trouble.

Is that the Bully you are talking about that told all the KIDS/ OUR SPORTS/ MNZ RoadRacing future that he would take there points off them if they used the tyres that are allowed in the rule book, O, Maybe he actually cannot read EEEENGRISH: or count facepalm:


PS DAN, congrats on your WIN Dude

[Wingnut]

I got fined $250 which they said would go to Junior Road Racing

Ironic considering all the time you spend with the juniors in streetstock....

[budda]

Can someone help me out here - have just typed a rebuttal to the masturbatory missive on page 3, and the system wont let me post it - possibly timed out due to the multiple re-reads and edits so I dont sink to the same depths as some on here. If theres anyone interested in FACTS rather than the nocturnal emissions of the disaffected, please tell me how to get around this stumbling block

Thanks in advance for your help ( and the snide comments Shaun - funny how you too turn to suit the surrounds - should change your name from Gremlin to Chameleon )

Cheers
Peter R

[Shaun]

[QUOTE=budda;1129987240]Can someone help me out here - have just typed a rebuttal to the masturbatory missive on page 3, and the system wont let me post it - possibly timed out due to the multiple re-reads and edits so I dont sink to the same depths as some on here. If theres anyone interested in FACTS rather than the nocturnal emissions of the disaffected, please tell me how to get around this stumbling block

Thanks in advance for your help ( and the snide comments Shaun - funny how you too turn to suit the surrounds - should change your name from Gremlin to Chameleon )

Cheers


Try word pad then post when finished Boss


Time for you retire from MNZ BUDDA, ( Who the heck voted you into your position anyway? ) You as a REP of MNZ is a loss to us the members of the society and a strain on the admin office, and an embarrasment to our sport. MNZ office itself is fine, just plonkers with hidden agendas and very poor ego problems that are holding things back, and turning our/there future away.


To be a part of a Committee ( Which you are) you should first consult the other parties and act on a group decision, not your own personall agenda's.

So are you going to get on here and deny/lie what you were saying to the youth at Ch Ch on the weekend Peter?

Please remember your roll and responsibility and credibillity with the sport and industry before you go to far Pete

Signed CHAMELEON- The man who always fights for what he/she believes is write

[budda]

[QUOTE=Shaun;1129987329]

Can someone help me out here - have just typed a rebuttal to the masturbatory missive on page 3, and the system wont let me post it - possibly timed out due to the multiple re-reads and edits so I dont sink to the same depths as some on here. If theres anyone interested in FACTS rather than the nocturnal emissions of the disaffected, please tell me how to get around this stumbling block

Thanks in advance for your help ( and the snide comments Shaun - funny how you too turn to suit the surrounds - should change your name from Gremlin to Chameleon )

Cheers


Try word pad then post when finished Boss

Please remember your roll and responsibility and credibillity with the sport and industry before you go to far Pete

Signed CHAMELEON- The man who always fights for what he/she believes is write

Thanks for your help Shaun - as for what you say above, thats 2 more things we have in common

[Shaun]

[QUOTE=budda;1129987373]

Thanks for your help Shaun - as for what you say above, thats 2 more things we have in common

Peter, I will not post any more Negative about this any more as it really is getting us no where. You know my cell number if you want to discuss this with me at all.

I know your intentions in our sport are good, but neither of us are very good team players it seem's

[gixerracer]

[QUOTE=Shaun;1129987413]

Peter, I will not post about this any more as it really is getting us no where. You know my cell number if you want to discuss this with me at all.

I know your intentions in our sport are good, but neither of us are very good team players it seem's

You guy's would be great at the sword crossing game

[oyster]

Peter Ramage is a hard working, generous man. Hell, when you to Teretonga he often gives you a few extra laps!
But people screw up, me included. Peter and the commission are not exempt, but I'm sure puzzled why they don't relax a bit and get the riders and supporters at the "coal face" involved to guide them along to better (and easier) decision making. Then they get the credit, as due, for being consultative leaders, working well in a democratic organisation.
For me, the great years were 2 or 3 ago when Johnny Hepburn and Paul Stewart
were my contacts in MNZ and I thought they were great. Polite, consultative and in person, to myself and all the young ones, approachable, honest and freindly
Then, at the time of Paul Pavletich's arrival, it seemed the dark clouds rolled over.
Soon there was tension. Johnny resigned at a HUGE loss to the sport, and (I felt) Paul changed in way I could only describe as "singing the company tune" A bloody shame, and I've always hoped that open honesty would come back, but no sign yet....

[codgyoleracer]

Actually it must have been an official Riders Rep! I never gave him a thought, cheers

Riders Rep - that was me that day, & it was a busy one at that with a number of riders having various issues to deal with. Almost all handled well by officials on the day quite promptly.
My understanding of the pitlane start is "last bike over the line & then you get let go", however at levels it would be reasnoble to make that "last bike past pitlane exit".
The cold tyre comment is irrelevant IMO.

[Shaun]

[QUOTE=oyster;1129987616]Peter Ramage is a hard working, generous man. Hell, when you to Teretonga he often gives you a few extra laps!
But people screw up, me included. Peter and the commission are not exempt, but I'm sure puzzled why they don't relax a bit and get the riders and supporters at the "coal face" involved to guide them along to better (and easier) decision making. Then they get the credit, as due, for being consultative leaders, working well in a democratic organisation.
For me, the great years were 2 or 3 ago when Johnny Hepburn and Paul Stewart
were my contacts in MNZ and I thought they were great. Polite, consultative and in person, to myself and all the young ones, approachable, honest and freindly





100% AGREED Pete John and Paul Rocked in there rolls