The Bikers Political Party

**Conquiztador** · 19th February 2011, 18:04

Maybe we are going on about all this the wrong way?

Maybe we keep telling our self the wrong things?

Maybe we would be a force so strong that other parties would shiver?

Why not start a Biker Party?
We would easily get the numbers needed to get the OK. (500 members needed)

Then that all already have a political alliance/leaning has nothing to do with it. The argument often thrown around is that as the biker community only has one thing in common: Bikes, it would not work.

But after some consideration I actually tend to differ.

Who on here can with hand on their heart actually say that the ones they vote for 100% stand for their view/opinion? I recon there would not be many. Therefore, we tend to vote for the ones who do stand for the things that matter to us.

So my logic here says that if we started a Biker United Party and only worried re issues that are important for bikers we could get enough votes to make a difference.

We would be up front re that we don't have an opinion re mining, free trade, GST etc.
But we would clearly state that we do have a clear standpoint re wirecutters, ACC levies on bikes, rider training, drink drivers, import taxes on bike parts and so on.

Now, feel free to shoot me down...

**SMOKEU** · 19th February 2011, 18:32

Sounds good, but you'll need some good investors before you can get the plan off the ground.

**munster** · 19th February 2011, 18:47

Conquiztador for Presidente!

You'd only need the minimum 500 signed up party members, minimal money required for advertising etc 'cause if all KiwiBikers voted for the Bikers Party, we'd be over the 5% threshold for a party seat.

**mashman** · 19th February 2011, 18:47

... motorcyclists aren't just about motorcycling issues though, imho, and won't just vote on the basis that someone rides a motorcycle and will tackle motorcycle only issues... else they'd all vote for Goff, which they don't... (i say they, because I don't vote

)

It sounds too much like the Greens and Maori parties in ways. A narrow focus giving nothing of real substance to vote for.

just my .02...

but agree with the general can do thing... however, motorcyclists with real life policies ............

**Mom** · 19th February 2011, 18:48

Originally Posted by Conquiztador

Now, feel free to shoot me down...

Funny you should mention this. There is some talk around this

**phill-k** · 19th February 2011, 18:51

Or rather than having to find someone prepared to join the nuthouse, perhaps a party that will promise their whole party electoral vote for the party in Parliament who will take on board and commit to making changes that fit with the bikers party mandate.

**mashman** · 19th February 2011, 18:56

Originally Posted by phill-k

Or rather than having to find someone prepared to join the nuthouse, perhaps a party that will promise their whole party electoral vote for the party in Parliament who will take on board and commit to making changes that fit with the bikers party mandate.

soul the devil your to sell? Again, sounds like the Greens and Maori to me... unless of course they'd be interested in......... nahhhhhhhh

**Coldrider** · 19th February 2011, 19:07

Originally Posted by Conquiztador

Now, feel free to shoot me down...

BANG BANG, wasn't there a TV program in the '80's called "You asked for it"

**cheshirecat** · 19th February 2011, 19:24

Get a blog site up - free. Next a facebook page and twitter page - free and they all integrate. See how the numbers turn out and opinions develope.
These guys are on to it.

Crossroads Rider

PS I'd considerhelping organise it myself but am chocko with other stuff.

**Big Dave** · 19th February 2011, 19:28

Originally Posted by Coldrider

BANG BANG, wasn't there a TV program in the '80's called "You asked for it"

Featuring former NFL quarterback Fran Tarkington. I'd have to google the other two talking heads. Edit - Nah remembered - Cathy Lee.

**Edbear** · 19th February 2011, 19:43

Hmmm... Biker's United Party, or BUrP for short...

**pete376403** · 19th February 2011, 19:44

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Featuring former NFL quarterback Fran Tarkington. I'd have to google the other two talking heads. Edit - Nah remembered - Cathy Lee.

Cathy Lee Crosby, and some other guy. can't be arsed googling

**Conquiztador** · 19th February 2011, 19:53

Sounds like Greens and Maori Party you recon? And is that a bad thing? They have a few issues that they are pushing. Then if one of the bigger parties are happy to agree on them they sell their soul re anything else. (Hone must have missed the hui where that was told)

Lets say Bikers United were to push for two things:
1. ACC to be tied in to the driver license as far as motorvehicles is concerned. as we can only drive/ride one at the time.(and don't get stuck in to if this is right or wrong, that is at this stage beside the point)
2. Remove all wirecutters and install no more of them. Replace them with better options as per some of the European countries.

Bikers United go in to the election promising that they would fight for those two (and again, please do not worry re the issues and what else could be considered at this stage).The bikers in NZ who care re these issues would vote for them so would also many who voted for Bill & Ben party and McGillcuddy (or whatever their name was) as they like to stirr. Bikers United would get a seat or two in parlament. One of the bigger parties needs one or two more to be in power. They agree that if Bikers United come aboard wirecutters would disappear and ACC would be be tied in to driver licenses and not to each car/bike.

Then Bikers United have 3 years to be there and do some more good. Come next election they again pick a couple of main issues that bikers care for and do the same. The main parties know that there is no BS with Bikers United. Bikers United promised to support them as long as they got what they wanted. And that was precisely how it worked out. The bikers who voted would say: "They did what they promised! I vote for them again!" And now they get a couple more in...

Face it, the way we are now working and relying on others is doomed.

You can shoot again if ya so wish, but as I have had a JD or two I am officially bullet proof now.

**schrodingers cat** · 19th February 2011, 20:04

Hone Hawarewa might like to team up. He's about as agreeable as the rest on here so should fit in nicely. Buy him a Harley and tell him to rally the bros. What a force.

Actually get Brian Tamaki. He can get the faithful to tithe the readies for your campaign fund