Passed 6F but still no licence! What's your advice?

[musicman]

Far out some people need to learn to read! The issue right now isn't the fact that his licence was from Rarotonga, the issue right now is that he paid his fee HERE IN NEW ZEALAND for a full NZ licence, did the practical test HERE IN NEW ZEALAND, passed, and now they are denying him a licence. If NZTA didn't allow the overseas licence then they should have told him at the very beginning instead of taking his money and making him take the test!

[sidzstylez]

Looks like there's a bit of misunderstanding going on here...I sat the 6F practical here in NZ and passed after being advised this is all that I need to obtain a 6F licence.

Unfortunately I have no confirmation in writing that they would promise me a 6F licence on passing of the practical test in NZ. However, just having booked the test and being eligible for sitting the practical is confirmation that the staff thought it was appropriate at the time.

My understanding of the situation is:
- according to NZTA website, licences from countries not on the approved list are not able to be transferred unless you sit the appropriate practical test as well as theory test.
- Since Cook Islands don't have a graduated system, a motorbike licence is a FULL license NO matter what has been done to obtain it
- the appropriate test therefore would be a 6F
- My NZ 1F and 6L license should be proof that I have passed the theory component of the NZ standard
- the only thing remaining therefore to meet NZ standards is the 6F practical test
- surely if I have passed the 6F test, I meet all requirements to hold a 6F NZ licence

Surely if their concerns about the duration I have held the Cook Island licence are true I shouldn't have been able to pass the 6F test. If they expect this to happen then the strength of their practical test is poor and the whole system must be flawed.

Anyway I'm lucky as I have a friend over there on holiday and he has been able to push the police station into sending me the official letter urgently. However I have a feeling that the NZTA will not be happy no matter what the letter contains.

I also have a few practicing lawyer friends who may be able to have a look at the situation.

I wouldn't have been annoyed if they had told me that this conversion was not possible, however finding out that you cannot get your licence which you passed the test for is just plain idiotic.

If they just put me on my restricted they should expect a request for refund of the difference in test fees, reimbursement for time off work and a few other costs too.

Thanks for your opinions, some have been constructive and those are appreciated.

[skippa1]

Far out.....I should learn to read. You fight the buggers - youre right. and I am wrongdont tell my wife for gods sake....

[BIG DOUG]

SO you have had your learners for 4 years and not bothered to sit the nz license WHY.

[sinned]

I understood he did the 6F test in NZ under the promise that if he passed it then he passed it. If that is the case, then they should hand the license over forthwith.

WTF are you babbling on about?

They are goverment authority and promised him Full licence upon payment/completion of the full test, so as far as he is concerned he met all the legal requirements and now they are trying to back out of their obligations.

And reasoning that Raro licence is easy to obtain is very irrelevant.....

Of course he is trying to short cut the system (like any sane person would as its the most retarded system ever)....iam not arguing that point.

But as a holder of licence from another country he was promised full NZ licence upon completion of practical test....

Far out some people need to learn to read! The issue right now isn't the fact that his licence was from Rarotonga, the issue right now is that he paid his fee HERE IN NEW ZEALAND for a full NZ licence, did the practical test HERE IN NEW ZEALAND, passed, and now they are denying him a licence. If NZTA didn't allow the overseas licence then they should have told him at the very beginning instead of taking his money and making him take the test!

You got a weetbix packet license and here is weetbix packet legal advice. Expert legal advice from KB - what a fuckin joke.
You tried to scam the system which sets a minimum standard (be that too low) and missed out. I hope you take it all the way and exhaust all legal options and your own funds; just don't ask for legal aid as I am already paying too much tax.

[musicman]

Wow... The inability of this so-called "English speaking country"'s people to read English amazes me...

Never in my post did I pretend, or even attempt, to give legal advice, nor did I even say I agree with what the OP is trying to do. Conversion from a Raro licence has been tried before and there are threads on here about it. It doesn't work, the Raro licence is a joke. However, NZTA should have told the OP in the beginning instead of taking his money and making him do the test.

Imagine getting (buying) one of those online "university degrees", then taking that to the University of Auckland to cross-credit for a degree there. They tell you ok, all you need to do is this paper, so you take it and pass, then at the end suddenly the university says oh actually we don't accept your original degree for cross-crediting.

I'm not defending the OP's actions as he was trying to cheat the system, BUT I do feel that he should not have been led on by NZTA who have taken his money and wasted his time. I'm sure anyone in his situation would feel a bit miffed.

[FJRider]

I'm not defending the OP's actions as he was trying to cheat the system, BUT I do feel that he should not have been led on by NZTA who have taken his money and wasted his time. I'm sure anyone in his situation would feel a bit miffed.

Considering the OP has spent 4 years on a learners licence ... he is/was wasting his own time ... by not doing the restricted/full licence sooner. He is either lacking the ability or confidence to sit the test(s) ... or just too lazy to do them.

Either way ... I have no sympathy for him ...

[sil3nt]

Considering the OP has spent 4 years on a learners licence ... he is/was wasting his own time ... by not doing the restricted/full licence sooner. He is either lacking the ability or confidence to sit the test(s) ... or just too lazy to do them.

Either way ... I have no sympathy for him ...

But he just passed the 6F test. You can't do that without ability or confidence! (im not even sure myself if that is sarcasm or not )

But he has proven to a tester that he meets the riding ability required to obtain a full license and has paid his fees so he should get it.

[bsasuper]

Its quite simple, you should have done all the tests in NZ,and you took someones word that a useless bit of paper from raro should be ok, it does not matter if you paid for and passed a 6f test in NZ,its not complete so not valid.The blame is 50/50 here, 50 on you for trying to diddle the system, and 50 on the testers not knowing the rules.

[FJRider]

But he just passed the 6F test. You can't do that without ability or confidence! (im not even sure myself if that is sarcasm or not )

But he has proven to a tester that he meets the riding ability required to obtain a full license and has paid his fees so he should get it.

Only the test part of the 6F licence requirement ... NOT the time on learners/restricted ... or a licence transfer from a legitimate country of origin.

At least he knows he can pass the 6F test ... if he ever gets around to sitting it ... again ...

ps: there are some things you can be sure of ... :

[tigertim20]

I recently got my Raro licence in Jan while on holiday there and wanted to see if I could convert it to a NZ full therefore bypassing the restricted waiting time. Been on my learners for 4 years and in that time have been riding almost everyday (approx 50000km)

Asked NZTA over phone as well as AA centre prior to applying for this - both said as long as you pass full practical should be fine.

Went for my full test yesterday - which I passed without any concern however the testing officer and branch manager both seemed suspicious and called up NZTA again - so now even though they have passed me (and given me written proof) - my licence will not be released until I obtain a Police confirmation of licence and what I did to obtain this!

Called up the appropriate person in Raro police station - they did not seem interested in doing so - stating they usually will not write these letters for overseas drivers. I went through the usual tourist route and was observed riding at a bike hire place rather than the police station.

After calling up NZTA (again) I asked them what will happen if I cannot get this letter (considering I have met the 6F standard) and they did not even want to go there

I will attempt to get this letter from the Raro Police however what can/should I do if I can't?

Any advice?

someone will correct me if im wrong, or this has changed, but as I understood it:
There is a list of countries, whose licences can be directly ransferred to a new zealand licence. e.g. aussie, usa, england etc are on that list, so if you come here from a place on that list, you can basically directly convert your licence over.

I beleive that raro, along with most of the small island nations were removed from the list a few years ago to stop people doing exactly what you are doing, bypassing an already piss-easy NZ licencing test by going to a place where its actually easier than it is here to get a licence.
Id say youre gonna be out of luck.

The written confirmation of passing a pratical will probably mean nothing. If you pass the practical, but fail the eye test, you would NOT have passed the licence, so basicaaly I would expect the answer to be 'You must fulfill ALL facets of the test, and you have not done so'.
I may be wrong.
good luck!

[FJRider]

I may be wrong.
good luck!

You're not ...

[miloking]

You got a weetbix packet license and here is weetbix packet legal advice. Expert legal advice from KB - what a fuckin joke.
You tried to scam the system which sets a minimum standard (be that too low) and missed out. I hope you take it all the way and exhaust all legal options and your own funds; just don't ask for legal aid as I am already paying too much tax.

Hmm..why dont you get fucked, how is that for legal advice...

[madbikeboy]

Jesus. H. Christ.

You fuckers need to get a life.

Why can't we all just get along...?

[Smifffy]

You passed the test bit, but you didn't qualify for the other parts of the equation.

Either get busy sorting it out, or get busy doing another 4 years on your R.