High beam. WTF?

[Tink]

Picking my bike up Saturday morning -ish. Despite all the social offers available, I am thinking I will probably head out to "play" on my new wheels. I will spend many hours commuting up and down the motorway, I dont feel any desire to do that on my first day out on her.

That takes care of Saturday, Sunday, maybe head to Mangawhai for lunch Want to come along?

All good... heading up that way maybe at Easter with kids for a visit with friends... having a bbq here on saturday avo.. with a few extra's. (ps invite only lol, u are invited)... new bike coooool... what are you getting?

[FJRider]

I noticed that some dealers always flick their demo bikes onto high beam.

My guess is people assume it makes them more visible. It may do, but yes full beam from any vehicle is hard on the eyes.

Using headlights in a manner that causes others to be dazzeled is an offence. Not that some of the minority bikers on this site would care about anyone but themselves.

I figure ride how you would appreciate others to ride.

The regulation to help those not sure about the rules:
Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427) (as at 11 December 2009)





8.3 Use of motor vehicle lighting equipment on road

• (1) A person must not use vehicle lighting equipment in such a way that it dazzles, confuses, or distracts so as to endanger the safety of other road users.
  
  
  
  
  
  (2) If a vehicle's headlamps are in use, a driver must dip those headlamps—
  
  • (a) whenever they would be likely to interfere adversely with the vision of another driver in motion on a road; or
  
  
  • (b) when approaching an intersection or other place where the traffic is or appears to be under the control of an enforcement officer; or
  
  
  • (c) when the vehicle is parked.
  (3) A driver, during the hours of darkness, must use the vehicle's headlamp or headlamps.
  
  (4) A driver during the hours of darkness must use the vehicle's position lamp or lamps.
  
  (5) This subclause applies to the driver of a moped or motorcycle manufactured on or after 1 January 1980. The driver other than during the hours of darkness must use the moped's or motorcycle's headlamps or, if fitted, the moped's or motorcycle's daytime running lamps.
  
  Compare: SR 1976/227 r 37(2), (6), (8), (10)
  Clause 8.3(5): added, on 1 November 2009, by clause 30 of the Land Transport (Road User) Amendment Rule 2009 (SR 2009/253).

The law also states you must not exceed 100 km/hr ... just another law/rule which gets ignored ... if it suits ... at the time ...

If you wish to quote laws/rules ... quote ones YOU never ignore ...

[Mom]

what are you getting?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d-for-the-soul

[Katman]

Don't you just love team players?!

I think you'll find you're mistaken.

He's just the half-time ice-cream boy.

[bsasuper]

People who drive/ride with hi beam on, and dont dip when following and for on coming traffic are just total pea brains, morons, fuckwits.You are more likely to cause an accident.

[Pussy]

I think you'll find you're mistaken.

He's just the half-time ice-cream boy.

[rastuscat]

Aw man, such a memory lane trip !! I think I recall that from a party about 30 years ago................DOH !!

Ta.

[Maha]

All good... heading up that way maybe at Easter with kids for a visit with friends... having a bbq here on saturday avo.. with a few extra's. (ps invite only lol, u are invited)... new bike coooool... what are you getting?

Might be an option if the night looks good. Cant beat a night ride when its crisp and clear....good chance to use the full beam also....

[CookMySock]

I use my nasty-bright highbeam everywhere, EXCEPT following other bikers, on overcast days, at night in traffic, or in any other situation where it blinds people.

On brightly sunlit days I get ZERO complaints, but will dip immediately following a request or a complaint, or if I detect anyone taking some measures to mitigate.

Other than that, I care not whether anyone likes my fullbeam lights or otherwise. They work damn well at letting cagers know I am there. Cagers can take some reassurance in the fact that I will not be behind them for any longer than 20 seconds.

The only workable way to let motorists know I am there is to polarise them, and thats tough.

[pzkpfw]

I use my nasty-bright highbeam everywhere, EXCEPT following other bikers, on overcast days, at night in traffic, or in any other situation where it blinds people.

On brightly sunlit days I get ZERO complaints, but will dip immediately following a request or a complaint, or if I detect anyone taking some measures to mitigate.

Other than that, I care not whether anyone likes my fullbeam lights or otherwise. They work damn well at letting cagers know I am there. Cagers can take some reassurance in the fact that I will not be behind them for any longer than 20 seconds.

The only workable way to let motorists know I am there is to polarise them, and thats tough.

Sometimes the cager is a rider who happens to be in their car.

What's the standard way for them to tell you, especially when you are behind them, that you're a fuckwit and your lights need to be dipped?

...you know, for the once in a while that you are forced to be there more than 20 seconds?

[Gremlin]

(Especially when an "adventure" (dual purpose) bike is close behind you, in busy traffic, so it's fairly high off the ground headlight is right in your freaking mirror for freaking ages. Grrrr.)

Yeah, I feel a bit sorry for those in front, or approaching me, when I'm on the BMW. The headlight is probably more than 1m off the ground, and often goes right over the boot of cars, flooding the back of the car.

I also regularly get flashed in the country, to dip my lights, when they are already dipped, so I give a quick flash back to let them know it IS dipped... but I guess its hard for them to know (and bloody irritating). Worst has been getting flashed by a truck... (think zombie in daylight).

The headlight is adjusted correctly, and I deliberately look for high headlights as they work better in corners at night, shining further through a corner.

Still... no, I hate those that use high beam with others around...

[DR650gary]

I use my nasty-bright highbeam everywhere, EXCEPT following other bikers, on overcast days, at night in traffic, or in any other situation where it blinds people.

On brightly sunlit days I get ZERO complaints, but will dip immediately following a request or a complaint, or if I detect anyone taking some measures to mitigate.

Other than that, I care not whether anyone likes my fullbeam lights or otherwise. They work damn well at letting cagers know I am there. Cagers can take some reassurance in the fact that I will not be behind them for any longer than 20 seconds.

The only workable way to let motorists know I am there is to polarise them, and thats tough.

There is an old saying that comes to mind here..

"Better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are stupid, than open it and remove all doubt."

You are an idiot.

[Taz]

having a bbq here on saturday avo.. with a few extra's.

Bugger I'm working and my invite seems to have gone missing in the post....

[CookMySock]

Sometimes the cager is a rider who happens to be in their car.

What's the standard way for them to tell you, especially when you are behind them, that you're a fuckwit and your lights need to be dipped?

...you know, for the once in a while that you are forced to be there more than 20 seconds?

A person driving a car is a cager. A person riding a bike is a biker. Simple.

The traditional way to request a dip is by flashing, which I will respond to instantly. If I got any at all, which I don't.

I won't tread on people. If they don't like it, I'll stop. But I'm not getting any complaints. At all. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Nuffing. What am I missing?

[oneofsix]

I use my nasty-bright highbeam everywhere, EXCEPT following other bikers, on overcast days, at night in traffic, or in any other situation where it blinds people.

On brightly sunlit days I get ZERO complaints, but will dip immediately following a request or a complaint, or if I detect anyone taking some measures to mitigate.

Other than that, I care not whether anyone likes my fullbeam lights or otherwise. They work damn well at letting cagers know I am there. Cagers can take some reassurance in the fact that I will not be behind them for any longer than 20 seconds.

The only workable way to let motorists know I am there is to polarise them, and thats tough.

with you headlight on highbeam your location become indistinct. i nearly wiped out a bike with his highbeam on because I thought the light was coming from the 4wd behind the rider, the rider being invisible behind his light.
I am told studies have been done on this but have yet found them.
Also had one following me and i couldn't tell how close he was.
Now being mainly a rider I care and took extra care but if I were a normal cager you are toast.