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    Anyone got the motorcycle stats to date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Anyone got the motorcycle stats to date?
    Just what I was going to ask. Maybe the levies worked and now we don't need the McSAC!

    How cool would that be?
    Keep on chooglin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    Just what I was going to ask. Maybe the levies worked and now we don't need the McSAC!

    How cool would that be?
    I'm holding my breath expectantly.

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    So OK what has caused the road toll to come down??

    So far we have price of fuel, thats a crock, just as many cars on the road in Auckland and the price has only just gone up so that can be ruled out.

    Whats left? people riding/driving better? No surly that can't be it.
    Who really cares who puts their hand up and says it was because of this as long as the toll comes down or do the nay sayers on here just need something to bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    So OK what has caused the road toll to come down??
    It's most likely a statistical blip and nothing has changed. One quarter is far too short a time to say anything about the trend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    Whats left? people riding/driving better? No surly that can't be it.
    The only 100% certain reason for the lower number of fatal crashes is that there have been less crashes this year where people have died. Strange but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Anyone got the motorcycle stats to date?
    Yeah, I have two bikes and am still alive, therefore double the ACC levies is helping me and saving the kittens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    The only 100% certain reason for the lower number of fatal crashes is that there have been less crashes this year where people have died. Strange but true.
    Don't be a hold-out.

    Give us the motorcycle stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Don't be a hold-out.

    Give us the motorcycle stats.
    It will probably require an OIA request, since that is how TPTB prefer to communicate with bikers.
    Keep on chooglin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Don't be a hold-out.
    Give us the motorcycle stats.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    It will probably require an OIA request, since that is how TPTB prefer to communicate with bikers.
    Here for all the world to see - http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/road-deaths/toll.html.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Must need coffee because what stands out to me seems to be screwed numbers. There were no pillion deaths in 2010 or 2011 and yet up until 31/03/2011 (today ) there has been 3 pillion deaths ?? when did these occur if not from the 01/01/2010 or from 01/01/2011. Thought there should be an overlap there somewhere, or are these statistic untrustworthy

    Oops bad column headings. another read, will scroll down to the monthly stats and you see when they say "Year from 1 Jan" they neglect to say until 31/03, so the 2010 numbers don't cover the whole year, just the first 3 months of that year.

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    The first two columns are the year to date comparison that started this thread off, so only include the first three months of this year to the first three months of last year. The second two columns are a rolling 12 month period, so compare 1st April 2010 to 31st March 2011 with 1st April 2009 to 31st March 2010.

    The final table is the interesting one as you can see where the reduction is coming from. Auckland holding back the rest of the country as per usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    It's most likely a statistical blip and nothing has changed. One quarter is far too short a time to say anything about the trend.
    Which is why the "its because of the petrol price" is just so wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    The only 100% certain reason for the lower number of fatal crashes is that there have been less crashes this year where people have died. Strange but true.
    The one that always gets me is there are to many variables in crashes for the stats to be used as a reason to implement new policy and i guess this is what fuels most debate over the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    Just what I was going to ask. Maybe the levies worked and now we don't need the McSAC!

    How cool would that be?
    Totally off topic, but every time I see "McSAC" I think it's a new Macca's burger (although I won't buy it coz SAC makes me think of something I'd rather not have in my... err ... yeah)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    Which is why the "its because of the petrol price" is just so wrong

    Wrong. It is still a factor that needs to be taken into consideration. I've asked a few people recently this exact question, and all of them have stated the same. When the price of fuel goes up, they travel less.

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