Quota? What quota?

[rastuscat]

If you can show me how me going 4km/h over an open road limit on a straight costs tax payers $80 I'd happily pay and not complain.

The fine for 104 in a 100 area is $30.

The cost of processing that ticket is $26.

So thanks for the $4.

Crashes and injury (the risk of which increase with an increase in kinetic energy imparted) cost the country lots.

But please don't think of the thing as us out to get you. Don't speed, don't get ticketed. Simple.

[rastuscat]

So what bike have you decided on?

Sold the 1150GS today. I've had the F800ST for a week, and it's the only one I can afford to keep. Tres cool bike.

Interesting chats here on KB. I have a love hate relationship with it.

Like I have with my lawnmower.

Donuts.

[superman]

But please don't think of the thing as us out to get you. Don't speed, don't get ticketed. Simple.

So because the law's the law that is what I must follow and not question it.

That's like saying if it was against the law to lie, don't lie and you won't get a fine. Who says lying is worth a fine?! Who says that 104 on a straight in that area is worth a fine?! Enforcement officers do.

Yet I can go around a hairpin corner pushing my car as fast as I like as long as it doesn't break the speed limit and the wheels don't slip at all.

1.5 tonnes of glorious metal hooning around a tight corner and as long as I haven't quite pushed it too far it's fine... but 4km/h over and oh you better pull over and get some demerit points mate.

[MrKiwi]

I would have thought those figures to be accurate and more a reflection of poor survey methodology.
How does one define a good driver? I'm sure that there are some traits we will all agree on, but I'm also sure there will be many things some will consider more important than others. Without a good definition it is up to the individual to assess against their own yard stick - which incidentally is how they drive.

[MrKiwi]

I challenge anyone to provide me with the figure that my staff have to write each day. Nobody can do it, as nobody has told me how many are expected.

Each day my troops write tickets, and submit their copies to my in-tray. I check them, and forward them to the system. That means I know how many each person is writing. I also know how many arrests each person makes, how many cars they impound from disqualified drivers, how many crashes they attend. I'm no different from you, I can tell who is and isn't working. Some of my troops lock more crooks up, some write more seatbelt tickets.

I also know who has lost a house in the earthquake, who has kids acting up, who is getting bogged down in paperwork. I'm the boss, but I'm also the friend who tries to protect them from the shit coming from the management and the public.

Each individual is different, but most on KB just lump them as revenue collecting bas****s, and think that their individual traffic stop for something they are innocent of is the greatest injustice ever visited upon man. Meanwhile, the cop believes that they have been looking for someone who breaks the rules, and that the person they have dealt with has done exactly what they are accused of. Hard to believe it is the same thing they each see from different points of view.

Just venting. Harumph.

You raise some good points.

[rastuscat]

but 4km/h over and oh you better pull over and get some demerit points mate.

Question the law. Don't keep bagging the individuals who are doing as they are paid to do by enforcing it.

Have a go at the Minister of Something, or the CEO of the govt body that makes the laws you object to. Don't have a go at the human who has to actually deliver the message.

[Smifffy]

Question the law. Don't keep bagging the individuals who are doing as they are paid to do by enforcing it.

Have a go at the Minister of Something, or the CEO of the govt body that makes the laws you object to. Don't have a go at the human who has to actually deliver the message.

Last I checked humans have free will and discretion. Many of the stops are just ego/power trips. Just like the emotive claptrap posted earlier, allegedly from "some cop who died 2 months later"

When was the last time any of your 'troops' administered mouth to mouth or personally saved a life?

Every single time they do, they are touted in the media and often acknowledged in a thread on here.

[superman]

Question the law. Don't keep bagging the individuals who are doing as they are paid to do by enforcing it.

Have a go at the Minister of Something, or the CEO of the govt body that makes the laws you object to. Don't have a go at the human who has to actually deliver the message.

Oh I get you, police follow their superiors only and can't think for themselves. Not like they could regulate laws themselves by just ticketing those they deem to be dangerous, which I'm sure lots of cops actually do. And for you to say that they shouldn't, and just follow the law by the letter is ridiculous and dehumanises the people you say are the same as us.

[Smifffy]

Oh yeah:

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/police.asp

[rastuscat]

When was the last time any of your 'troops' administered mouth to mouth or personally saved a life?

22 February, just after 12.51 p.m.

So there.

[Smifffy]

22 February, just after 12.51 p.m.

So there.

Well done!
Everyone did what they could that day.

[pete376403]

Question the law. Don't keep bagging the individuals who are doing as they are paid to do by enforcing it.

Have a go at the Minister of Something, or the CEO of the govt body that makes the laws you object to. Don't have a go at the human who has to actually deliver the message.

The Nuremberg Defence in other words.

[Smifffy]

The Nuremberg Defence in other words.

Oooh.

Godwin's law? End of thread?

[Smifffy]

Or the Milgram effect?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

[Spearfish]

Last I checked humans have free will and discretion. Many of the stops are just ego/power trips. Just like the emotive claptrap posted earlier, allegedly from "some cop who died 2 months later"

When was the last time any of your 'troops' administered mouth to mouth or personally saved a life?

Every single time they do, they are touted in the media and often acknowledged in a thread on here.

The same flavoured response was posted after the last time.
If hating cops is part of your biker identity then nothing will persuade your thinking any other way. c'est la vie