Eleven Billion

[Bikemad]

just a little curious.............should i go to use the services of one of these highly qualified taxpayer subsidised uni graduates in the future..........will they let me settle the account for their services with regular interest free payments over the next five or so years...........pass the Tui

[Smifffy]

just a little curious.............should i go to use the services of one of these highly qualified taxpayer subsidised uni graduates in the future..........will they let me settle the account for their services with regular interest free payments over the next five or so years...........pass the Tui

Nah, just do what everyone else does and import a South African.

[superman]

just a little curious.............should i go to use the services of one of these highly qualified taxpayer subsidised uni graduates in the future..........will they let me settle the account for their services with regular interest free payments over the next five or so years...........pass the Tui

Would you expect it of hiring a tax payer subsidised high school graduate?

[Bikemad]

Would you expect it of hiring a tax payer subsidised high school graduate?

no.......because i believe everyone is entitled to the basics of a general education,the 3 Rs and that sort of stuff which is pretty much what its all about up to that level

[Brian d marge]

just a little curious.............should i go to use the services of one of these highly qualified taxpayer subsidised uni graduates in the future..........will they let me settle the account for their services with regular interest free payments over the next five or so years...........pass the Tui

you might , if they didnt have a 40 k loan

Stephen

[superman]

no.......because i believe everyone is entitled to the basics of a general education,the 3 Rs and that sort of stuff which is pretty much what its all about up to that level

Lol. I hardly think the 3 Rs are anything to do with the curriculum from when you're 13 onwards, unless you of course went to a shitty primary school. So maybe free education should stop at 13 where you can start choosing your subjects or should we say "career specialisations".

[Bikemad]

Lol. I hardly think the 3 Rs are anything to do with the curriculum from when you're 13 onwards, unless you of course went to a shitty primary school. So maybe free education should stop at 13 where you can start choosing your subjects or should we say "career specialisations".

so your telling me you never did maths or english at high school
dude..........in my experience there is a ton of over 13-18 year old teenagers out there who could use a shitload more 3 Rs so i dont get where your coming from and thats probably a different topic anyway

[superman]

so your telling me you never did maths or english at high school
dude..........in my experience there is a ton of over 13-18 year old teenagers out there who could use a shitload more 3 Rs so i dont get where your coming from and thats probably a different topic anyway

Improving the 3 Rs goes on for the rest of your lifetime, but you can easily get by in life with the skill you have by 13. The point is that education should increase productivity and skill within a country to make it excel economically. Lowering peoples access to tertiary education only stifles a country and requires epic proportions of imports instead.

[Smifffy]

Lol improving the 3 Rs goes on for the rest of your lifetime, but you can easily get by in life with the skill you have by 13. The point is that education should increase productivity and skill within a country to make it excel economically. Lowering peoples access to tertiary education only stifles a country and requires epic proportions of imports instead.

Why waste time teaching 3r's when we can get Indians that know their 3rs for a dime a dozen?

Kiwi kids don't want to learn, and can subsist on the dole, so what's the problem?

[superman]

Why waste time teaching 3r's when we can get Indians that know their 3rs for a dime a dozen?

Kiwi kids don't want to learn, and can subsist on the dole, so what's the problem?

And away overseas I run.

[Smifffy]

And away overseas I run.

Of my year at high school, I think I am one of about 6 that are still here. One of us is returned after making a fortune in the UK.

P.S I've never been to the UK myself.

[Bikemad]

Lol improving the 3 Rs goes on for the rest of your lifetime, but you can easily get by in life with the skill you have by 13. The point is that education should increase productivity and skill within a country to make it excel economically. Lowering peoples access to tertiary education only stifles a country and requires epic proportions of imports instead.

sorry man...........but i seriously doubt the kids i see nowdays at 13 would get by in life,unless they had a pimp or a milf,i agree in a perfect world education should do as you say and i never said anything about lowering access for people to education as such.......but at 18 you are an adult,you make the choice to accept an interest free loan from the taxpayer to further your career and make the big bucks so why cant you return the favour to the taxpayer later in the equation with an interest free loan??

[Brian d marge]

And away overseas I run.

its great over here , good money , dont have to work to hard . Health care good . Pension good
House only 30 % of me income ,,,,,

beer cheap and strong , ciggies only a few pennies and a short boat ride I can get me one ofg these

yours in the one with an extra bit

Stephen

[Smifffy]

its great over here , good money , dont have to work to hard . Health care good . Pension good
House only 30 % of me income ,,,,,

beer cheap and strong , ciggies only a few pennies and a short boat ride I can get me one ofg these

yours in the one with an extra bit

Stephen

Other than the usual whinging, the pom I used to work with, living in Thailand has no complaints...

[matdaymon]

Bloody hell what a read!
I spent a year flipping burgers at the local McD's before I decided on what uni course/career I'd like to do. Then After I had worked out what course I'd like to do, I had to go through a selection process in order to get in.
Now I have a student loan with an extra $2k on it than I would like and growing thanks to illness causing me to fail/drop a few papers and the inability of me to find even part time work in this shitty little economy we have.

Simple matter of fact, getting the loan is the easiest part of study. You then need to bust your nuts in studying not pissing around at the pub or dicking around with mates and then once you have made it through the 3+ years of studentism you get to attempt to find a job in the current job market. Most of my mates are still applying for jobs as some people have explained, employers want experience not a piece of paper. Yet how the frick is anyone going to get experience if they can't get a job in the first place????

Don't get me started on the waste of time courses... Maori Media @ AUT is one that grinds me off to no end. Kids coming in at 18, dicking around because they are on Maori scholarships then dropping out because they never had a hope in hell of passing in the first place but reap the rewards of ethnicity for a good year or so while they work it out!

So thank you very much, I will take my interest free student loan, with course related costs, course fees and a Student "living costs" (which you can barely live off), and I will pay it back in my own fucking time unless someone gives me a winning lotto ticket in the near future.
/rant over

*I'm studying towards a BCS at AUT working towards a major in Radio. An industry not known for being well paid until you have worked your ass off for a few years doing the shit jobs. I am willing to put myself through this because I want a career, not a job that I will hate after 6months.