MNZ board nominations

**ashracer** · 28th April 2011, 06:37

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

There's another bit of gossip too
What's the facts with this one, some people have said a whole lot of shit and gone all quiet.????

To the best of my knowledge spyda, MNZ announced less than a week before the sidecar teams carnet was due to be paid for their trip to the Barry Sheene memorial last month. Some may think the timing was intent on stopping the trip. Perhaps the board had finished deliberating on the subject & timing was coincedence. Either way the sidecar boys had a quick whip around & the carnet was paid, trip took place,the 8 kiwi teams did great & everyone had a fun time, (27 f1 sidecars & 14 posties/f2 sidecar class would have been the biggest grid some would have raced with.)

**Kickaha** · 28th April 2011, 06:45

Originally Posted by ashracer

To the best of my knowledge spyda, MNZ announced less than a week before the sidecar teams carnet was due to be paid for their trip to the Barry Sheene memorial last month. Some may think the timing was intent on stopping the trip. Perhaps the board had finished deliberating on the subject & timing was coincidence.

Did they give a reason for not fronting for it?

**Billy** · 28th April 2011, 07:17

Serious question,
How many sidecars are there in the country that couldve been racing this past season if a reasonable effort was put in?

**jasonu** · 28th April 2011, 07:33

Originally Posted by gav

And yet 150SS is OK? The majority of F4 bikes would be worth more than the average RG150. How about those Global Motorsports CBR150's? Don't they want to try and promote that as some "new" National Championship as well?
The National Champs should be an example of the best of the best in all classes. Hence I'd suggest Clubmans either run there bike in the relevant class or maybe volunteer to help out if they dont think they will be fast enough.

Yes IMO clubmans has no place at the nationals, never has and never will.
Buckets at HD, Puke, or Manfield full track=yawnfest unless you, your boyfriend, mate etc are actually in it, certainly not the thing to attract the paying puiblic.

**Biggles08** · 28th April 2011, 07:49

The problem with not having clubmans is those that don't meet the 115% threshold have no class to fall back into. If people make the effort to turn up, pay their entrys it would be nice for them to get a ride regardless if they are too slow.

My opinion for what its worth would be superbikes, supersport, protwins, prolights, sidecars (if the shit is ever sorted) and clubmans. 6 separate classes on track (mixed stock in with relevant class) is plenty for a meeting and manageable so far as getting track time to all. I know the SI has done great things with the juniors and streetstock field but if these could be eventually all moved into prolights for the future, I think it would be more relevant for the world stage (which is after all where we want these young guns to end up).

Buckets have no place at a national meeting even though after talking to Karl Morgan I want one!

**Str8 Jacket** · 28th April 2011, 07:56

Originally Posted by Biggles08

Buckets have no place at a national meeting even though after talking to Karl Morgan I want one!

Maybe we should actually start calling the class by it's proper name; F4 and F5. Some of these bikes are faster than the RG's and 250's.

Not that I am saying that F4 & 5 shuold be a national class but the lack of understanding around it is astounding given the number of 'top level racers' that started in buckets.

And FWIW - the last 2 TRRS's have had over 40 bikes on the grid which made for much better spectating than the handful of bikes in the 'premier class'.....

**sidecar bob** · 28th April 2011, 08:53

Originally Posted by Billy

Serious question,
How many sidecars are there in the country that couldve been racing this past season if a reasonable effort was put in?

I have a photo on my wall of 20 at Levels in '08, possibly '07, that was the year Scrivy paid everybodys entry fees, (Hidden agenda im sure though) Just wanted to see other people out racing.
I see no reason why we cant have that again, as long as the Steve & Jim show dont try to run over everybody rough shod again.

**sidecar bob** · 28th April 2011, 08:57

Originally Posted by ashracer

To the best of my knowledge spyda, MNZ announced less than a week before the sidecar teams carnet was due to be paid for their trip to the Barry Sheene memorial last month. Some may think the timing was intent on stopping the trip. Perhaps the board had finished deliberating on the subject & timing was coincedence. Either way the sidecar boys had a quick whip around & the carnet was paid, trip took place,the 8 kiwi teams did great & everyone had a fun time, (27 f1 sidecars & 14 posties/f2 sidecar class would have been the biggest grid some would have raced with.)

Im going to be a bit more specific. Chris, Scrivy & myself split the carnet 3 ways, it was nearly 40 thousand dollars. (hidden agenda im sure) Just wanted to see other people out racing.
It was the best race meeting most of us had ever attended & I would do it again, even if it did clash with a National round, & whats so special about them anyway?

**Biggles08** · 28th April 2011, 09:30

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Maybe we should actually start calling the class by it's proper name; F4 and F5. Some of these bikes are faster than the RG's and 250's.

Never disputed that Str8 Jacket and the point really isn't valid. F4 & F5 (there you go ;-)) are just not a national class and I don't believe they should be...that shouldn't distract from what they are though.

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Not that I am saying that F4 & 5 shuold be a national class but the lack of understanding around it is astounding given the number of 'top level racers' that started in buckets.

Hey I thought we had to call them by their correct names!? And just out of interest, what understanding is lacking?

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

And FWIW - the last 2 TRRS's have had over 40 bikes on the grid which made for much better spectating than the handful of bikes in the 'premier class'.....

Numbers racing is always the goal, but we should be looking at the future of the young guns who as you say 'started in buckets' by providing a platform to launch internationally. So I'll say again with all due respect (seriously), F4 is not a national class and I don't think it should be. Lets concentrate on a class that is closer to where motorcycle racing is heading internationally such as prolites to have more Daniel Metam's exported.

**Str8 Jacket** · 28th April 2011, 10:16

Originally Posted by Biggles08

So I'll say again with all due respect (seriously), F4 is not a national class and I don't think it should be.

Yes, just like what I said.

What I think people are misguided about is the speed difference. A top level F4 bike would CREAM a 150 s/s and reguarly do.

As you were, I aint gonna bite Mercus as I have already voted....

**Billy** · 28th April 2011, 10:30

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Yes, just like what I said.

What I think people are misguided about is the speed difference. A top level F4 bike would CREAM a 150 s/s and reguarly do.

As you were, I aint gonna bite Mercus as I have already voted....

Finally made a decision and voted,Good skills,

Like your signature,Now who does that remind me of????????????

**Str8 Jacket** · 28th April 2011, 10:35

Originally Posted by Billy

Finally made a decision and voted,Good skills,

Like your signature,Now who does that remind me of????????????

I sure did, discussions on here and Biggles Racing Page helped me to decide that realistically a change of president will not necessarily be able to make any worthwile changes within the next year and that Jim does actually have direction and experience. Hopefully this will be the year that the things that were promised will come into fruition and that the communication will be open and transparent.
IMO the committee needs to be strenghtened before any President can be effective and able to push through positive changes.

I am hoping that there will be more than two candidates next year and that the nominees may have a better chance to introduce themselves etc.

**Deano** · 28th April 2011, 10:37

Originally Posted by Biggles08

The problem with not having clubmans is those that don't meet the 115% threshold have no class to fall back into. If people make the effort to turn up, pay their entrys it would be nice for them to get a ride regardless if they are too slow.

if they aren't within the 115% threshold then should they be racing at a nationals event ?

no clubmans = more track time for your 'premiere classes' marcus. thought you would be in to that.

who tagged pro twins=fail ? funny considering there were just as many entries at some rounds as superstock, maybe 1 less than superlite and 125gp, and more than one class also

tag fail lol