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Thread: Should Katman shut the fuck up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdunBrokdItAgin View Post
    Whichever way you want to colour the message - it is coming across as intolerant and unsympathetic. It will just deter people from posting up a crash.

    Also - the message is being delivered, at times, before any denied liability is posted.

    Edit - And by message I mean not only Katman's blunt posts but the general slant that is appearing on kiwibiker, towards any crash.
    You might as well go kick the cat (scuse the pun) by this time next week it will back to normal, its already showing sings of slipping away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    How about if you don't want to be criticized about your crash don't post it up.
    My point entirely.

    One of the learning aids, of having access to more experienced riders who can give constructive feedback on "coulda/ woulda/ shoulda", would be lost.

    I've had crashes (which I have learnt from, especially with some good advice from members of kiwibiker) but I'd never post about one on here now, not with the current atmosphere being as it is.

    When you have a crash you go through various stages (disbeleif, denial etc) all the way through to acceptance, but the last thing you need is someone forcing you from one stage to another before you are ready.

    Edit: People will get there in their own time, I think it is very rare for someone to have a crash and not learn from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdunBrokdItAgin View Post
    My point entirely.

    One of the learning aids, of having access to more experienced riders who can give constructive feedback on "coulda/ woulda/ shoulda", would be lost.

    I've had crashes (which I have learnt from, especially with some good advice from members of kiwibiker) but I'd never post about one on here now, not with the current atmosphere being as it is.

    When you have a crash you go through various stages (disbeleif, denial etc) all the way through to acceptance, but the last thing you need is someone forcing you from one stage to another before you are ready.
    What if the post was "I had a crash, I think I could have done better and avoided it, help me figure out how" would this bring down the kb angst? I can't recall this happening, but would be interested in the result if it has.
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    I think all you cunts should shut the fuck up.

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    Posting about a crash and getting upset with harsh/clinical responses is like:
    Being a premium cut of the mad butchers finest...
    Throwing your self over the fence into the wild dog enclosure at orana park...
    Then being surprised the dogs aren't sympathetic to your views on vegetarianism.

    I expect sympathy from my wife (@ first) but not from here, here its a swift kick up the arse with some "do insert something helpful next time ya dick" advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    I think all you cunts should shut the fuck up.
    Shhhhhhhhhhh you'll have this in PD before Katman can say 'Im too sexy for my shirt'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    No one will ever admit to fucking up....
    Maybe not straight away, adrenalin and whatnot, but give it a bit and it's a fairly logical conclusion to draw when there is a messed up bike in the shed/shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Maybe not straight away, adrenalin and whatnot, but give it a bit and it's a fairly logical conclusion to draw when there is a messed up bike in the shed/shop.
    That's where the gravel, diesel, pothole, wind, rain, cager, copper, hot chick etc. come into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    I think all you cunts should shut the fuck up.
    ...on ya bike!

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    ..I voted no, you have the right to say your say....as to the personal attacks on others....hmmm, you get what you give and I guess you have a real tough hide.

    I do tend to agree with much of what you write but as others suggest, the delivery is somewhat...scaling.

    But then again,, if some don't like it, don't read it, no-one forces another to log-on to KB, I only come here for the stalking and the entertainment...oh and sometimes I do learn some bike related stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    No one will ever admit to fucking up....thats where Steve suggests wrong to right.
    Sorry, I disagree.

    I completely fucked up and slide my bike down the road. Monday 18 April, so pretty recently.

    Was coming up to a round about, new tyre, rain, wet paint and that is all she wrote. I still class that as my fault. knew I had a new tyre, knew it was raining, knew about the location of the road marking. Yet still I didn't take due care.

    Boom, done thank you very much.

    So some of us that have "Accidents" will admit to completely fucking up.

    Difference is, I didn't come on here and cry and whinge about it. Fuck no.
    Why cry to you, I knew where and why I went down. Didn't need to get a sympathetic (sp) post from any of you. Got the bike to the shop, got it sorted, will be back on it soon.

    On ya bikes and stop bitching... Bunch of soft cock pussies!!!

    And Fatt Max... Get a Pie in ya!!! all this typing is making you lose weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyegasm View Post
    Sorry, I disagree.

    I completely fucked up and slide my bike down the road. Monday 18 April, so pretty recently.

    Was coming up to a round about, new tyre, rain, wet paint and that is all she wrote. I still class that as my fault. knew I had a new tyre, knew it was raining, knew about the location of the road marking. Yet still I didn't take due care.

    Boom, done thank you very much.

    So some of us that have "Accidents" will admit to completely fucking up.

    Difference is, I didn't come on here and cry and whinge about it. Fuck no.
    Why cry to you, I knew where and why I went down. Didn't need to get a sympathetic (sp) post from any of you. Got the bike to the shop, got it sorted, will be back on it soon.

    On ya bikes and stop bitching... Bunch of soft cock pussies!!!

    And Fatt Max... Get a Pie in ya!!! all this typing is making you lose weight
    Apologies yes I did get that wrong.

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    The message that most motorbike crashes are avoidable is valid, the wording and timing perhaps need work.

    In the end, it’s an online forum. If people get upset by what is posted then may be they should go somewhere else. Posting your own crash details is opening yourself up to negative comments. If you can’t live with it then don’t post it. I understand that the Sallies do sympathy quite well.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    How about if you don't want to be criticized about your crash don't post it up.
    What he said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Anyone remember his stance on why young Daniel died on the southern motorway?
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    As for the Coroner's report on the Daniel accident. It is out, as to why it is not on here? I will leave that up the many to figure out.
    You seem to know more than you are letting on. Considering the comments that the crash raised perhaps it should be posted up here so people can learn from the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    That's where the gravel, diesel, pothole, wind, rain, cager, copper, hot chick etc. come into it.
    #2, #5, and #8 cost me an indicator lens, mirror, and brake lever; still looking to invoice the bastards
    Seriously though, learning from word of mouth tips is better than learning from a mouth to road experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    You seem to know more than you are letting on. Considering the comments that the crash raised perhaps it should be posted up here so people can learn from the facts.
    Not for me to do so, if the family feel it necessary to post it, then fine.

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