General bitch (oops, I mean discussion) about bikers thread

[oneofsix]

Incorrect. I dont understand the ramblings of a womble......or is that a wombles (a double womble) womble, wombles, singular, plural
I guess I was stupid enough to crash so you should expect this confusion

Wombles is the plural

[george formby]

Wombles is the plural

They are reforming to play Glastonbury this year. Wheres that best one hit wonder thread gone?

[skippa1]

And I stand by what I said.
Some time ago,. we had a thread arguing about what construes an accident, as opposed to a crash.
My contention then, as it is now, is that an accident is not only unintentional, but is utterly unavoidable. ie act of god - at least, almost. One where nobody did anything wrong, but some sort of crash occured anyway. These sort are actually quite rare.

The next sort of accident is one where someone does something wrong, and anyone else caught up in it could not have avoided that involvement. Not so rare.

The usual sort of accident (a crash) is even less rare. Someone makes a mistake. Sometimes they are the only one involved, sometimes they involve someone else.

Let's assume for a moment that the someone is a SMIDSY and the someone else is a biker. In that type of accident, the biker who is really on to it, may 'see' what is about to happen and takes steps to avoid it.
With me so far?
KM will have us believe that always the case. And I tend to agree with him. Failure to identify the looming crisis, or missing the clues through not paying attention or simply riding like a cock leaving no escape route/safety buffer are quite common.

That world is called LaLa land and is reserved for fairies, those that are really out of it or bored people. If you think for one second that KM's comments are saving us from that you are sadly mistaken. Taken to its full conclusion we would all wear helmets walking down the road, avoid eating in case we got sick, avoid breathing incase we inhale a bug.....OMG....the world just isnt that way. And this is all to save KM some rego for a bike he clearly doesnt ride

[Maha]

Wombles is the plural

Spooky, you almost gussed the name of his business.

[MSTRS:Me]

That world is called LaLa land and is reserved for fairies, those that are really out of it or bored people. If you think for one second that KM's comments are saving us from that you are sadly mistaken. Taken to its full conclusion we would all wear helmets walking down the road, avoid eating in case we got sick, avoid breathing incase we inhale a bug.....OMG....the world just isnt that way. And this is all to save KM some rego for a bike he clearly doesnt ride

Pffft.

Managing the risk, by taking all reasonable and practical steps to avoid or mitigate is all that KM is saying.
Clearly 'reasonable and practical' mean different things to different people.
If your reasonable and practical steps fall short of KM's standard, and you crash because they weren't enough, then clearly his standard of care was =better than yours. And if you go on to defend your steps or deny they weren't enough, then you've just opened yourself to the label of idiot.

[willytheekid]

...............nearly out of popcorn!

[skippa1]

Pffft.

Managing the risk, by taking all reasonable and practical steps to avoid or mitigate is all that KM is saying.
Clearly 'reasonable and practical' mean different things to different people.
If your reasonable and practical steps fall short of KM's standard, and you crash because they weren't enough, then clearly his standard of care was =better than yours. And if you go on to defend your steps or deny they weren't enough, then you've just opened yourself to the label of idiot.

pfffttt yourself. I havent seen him say that for some time. I see all sorts of other shit, but not just "take all reasonable and practical steps". Point that out to me will you? I dont defend my steps or otherwise, I dont see why he has any right whatsoever to criticise the steps I have taken when he doesnt know me, has never met me and was not at the accident scene. To do so is presumptious and make obtuse comments is just a bit of thisand does nothing for his cause

[skippa1]

...............nearly out of popcorn!

Here, have mine, I'm loosing my appetite

[willytheekid]

Here, have mine, I'm loosing my appetite

Thanks!.....I was SOOO worried I was gonna run out before KM post's the video of his perfect riding & God like premonition.........can't wait for it!

[skippa1]

Thanks!.....I was SOOO worried I was gonna run out before KM post's the video of his perfect riding & God like premonition.........can't wait for it!

Unlikely it will fire after this much time

[ducatilover]

Here, have mine, I'm loosing my appetite

You're appetite is getting looser?

[MSTRS:Me]

You're appetite is getting looser?

Well, something is...

[ducatilover]

Well, something is...

Time to "feed the horse"

[skippa1]

You're appetite is getting looser?

Yes, its been loosed, let go, freed from restraint...





and it doesnt want popcorn

[ducatilover]

Yes, its been loosed, let go, freed from restraint...





and it doesnt want popcorn

Loose enough to fist?