Age to become independent?

[Urano]

well, here in italy (no, i'm actually in spain right now, but you know...) i'd say about, 45-50...
let's do 55!


realized to be born in the wrong place when at 15 i got a job delivering newspaper to pay my cagiva cocis 50cc...

[Laava]

Here in da fong, a lot of the young ones are independant at the age of 12. You can see them loitering in the mall or ducking behind fences with their cans of spray paint. Ah, to be young again!

[The Stranger:Me]

Independence training begins at birth IMHO and there should not be an age limit to achieving anything, the only factors that should limit them are attitude, safety, competence and a clear understanding of consequence!

Age is meaningless because everyone develops differently, one size does not fit all.

100% agree.

As a parent you bring a child into this world with out asking them if they want to be here. You raise them as YOU see fit. Then you push them out into the world and say you got to stand on your own. I often wonder if the parents that are so keen to push their kids out into the world in a hurry are doing for their kids or for themselves.

Lowering the drinking age was not a mistake, the management of it was, our society completely fucked it up and blamed the poor bloody kids FFS!

The kids (minority) that did fuck up got "all" the attention and now they want to punish the good kids "again" by not even giving them the chance to show what "they" can do, based on the failures of others.

Minority? well 49% is a minority I guess, but personally I think that it's sufficient to admit that the experiment was a mistake and wind back the clock a touch.

[Usarka]

Fatt Max's comment was way better than the shit I was going to write so +1.

But then again I am wasted on 'phets, booze and weed.

[Laava]

What time is dinner Mommy?

Interestingly enough someone took offence to this and abused me via red rep. Wasn't Mom, but just to clarify, you're not offended are you Mom?

[Mom]

Interestingly enough someone took offence to this and abused me via red rep. Wasn't Mom, but just to clarify, you're not offended are you Mom?

I know you too well to take offense by a comment like that Laava, I did not even remotely think it was offensive. Mom is my name, cooking is what I do, you may or may not be tied to my apron strings, I have not checked recently

[Laava]

*tug tug*
Feel that?

[Mom]

How late were you allowed out as a kid?

I came from a very disfunctional family, headed by a woman who drank more than she should have, who was married to a bloke that hated women.

I had a 10pm curfew, regardless of what was happening. I could go to the library, by bus, week nights when it was open, I could attend band practises. If I wanted to go to the pictures (as they were called in the olden days) I could only go to the 1pm ones by myself. If I wanted to go to the 4:45 session, I had to go with my younger brother He who used to say to me afterwards "smell my finger" I was well safe with him

I was a home alone child from age 9, after I refused to stay with the woman my mother paid to care for us after school until she got home from work, the cow locked me in a bedroom. I climbed out the window and went home. I refused to go back to her house so Mom had no choice.

It was not a happy home, so I made every attempt to not be there, I was a very active in the community person. Choir (1 night a week), ball room dancing (1 night a week), band practises, both junior and senior (2 nights out a week)library (1 night a week), evening playouts with the band (1 night a week, at least) gave me only one night at home.

Then I met a bloke that rode bikes As far as my Mother was concerned I still had the same schedule, so I stayed out 6 nights a week, untill 10pm Was late once, she met me at the door with a wooden spoon, chased my boyfriend down the drive trying to whack him with it, then turned on me

I left home at 16 after receiving black eyes, split lips, torn ears from my father, and totally unreasonable boundaries from my Mother, all the while being reminded about my "good christian upbringing"

I did not want that for my kids. I wanted an honest relationship with them. I was a tough Mom, no doubt about that, they had rules, and they got consequences, but they loved it. I had kids with the full intention of raising responsible, contributing members of society, who would not remain dependant on me past when is appropriate.

Eldest daughter left home to attend uni at age 18. My son left home (well I turfed him out really) at 18, my baby left home at 19. I am proud of my kids and the job I did with them.

[Mom]

*tug tug*
Feel that?

Bout time you paid a visit to your mommy Al

Seriously though, we need to say hi, I want to show off my Millie

[ducatilover]

*tug tug*
Feel that?

As heard by the virgin Mary

[Laava]

Come along to our ambulance run on Sun if you want? We will be at BK from 10.30 till 11 when we head out to Ngunguru to St Johns for a feed and some raffles. You don't have to bring an ambulance, you can come on your bike if you want!
edit; Did you find a new home for the BB?

[Mom]

...and toked myself to the moon and back

I went home one night, at 10pm as you do...

Absolutely wasted off my chops. I expected to go to bed and listen to my transistor (Hauraki tuned) watching my purple and gold paisley paterned walls and generally buzzing

No, my Mom wanted company, she was pissed as a fart, watching some horror movie on TV! FFS, I had to sit there watching monsters on TV about shitting myself, and trying hard to appear "normal". Good times indeed!

[Mom]

Come along to our ambulance run on Sun if you want? We will be at BK from 10.30 till 11 when we head out to Ngunguru to St Johns for a feed and some raffles. You don't have to bring an ambulance, you can come on your bike if you want!
edit; Did you find a new home for the BB?

Maha has a Learner and Newbie ride on tomorrow, I dont think I should skip out on that to head north somehow

just re-read that again, Sunday is Mothers Day, I am hoping to be lavished (and maybe ravished ) with pressies and LOVE from my babies The ravishing from Maha for clarity

And yes, BB does have a new home, though I still have to do the delivery run ...

Could not have gone to a better person actually, he knows her, having already lavished TLC on her, and is a Yay Maha NUT! He was looking for a project at the same time she needed a new home. i cant wait to see her when she is finished

Will wait for him to out himself though

[PrincessBandit]

At 19 and 21 mine are both still at home. While it is nice to have them here (most of the time...) I do wonder sometimes quite how they'll get on once they leave the nest. They have no problem looking after themselves (well, I should blardy well hope not, at that age!!!) when we're away; but the cost of living coupled with difficulty finding full time work...

By 18 I was flatting but then times were different, jobs easier to find. I look at young 'uns facing the big wide world today and am so glad I'm not going through that stage of my life again!

[mashman]

I came from a very disfunctional family, headed by a woman who drank more than she should have, who was married to a bloke that hated women.

I had a 10pm curfew, regardless of what was happening. I could go to the library, by bus, week nights when it was open, I could attend band practises. If I wanted to go to the pictures (as they were called in the olden days) I could only go to the 1pm ones by myself. If I wanted to go to the 4:45 session, I had to go with my younger brother He who used to say to me afterwards "smell my finger" I was well safe with him

I was a home alone child from age 9, after I refused to stay with the woman my mother paid to care for us after school until she got home from work, the cow locked me in a bedroom. I climbed out the window and went home. I refused to go back to her house so Mom had no choice.

It was not a happy home, so I made every attempt to not be there, I was a very active in the community person. Choir (1 night a week), ball room dancing (1 night a week), band practises, both junior and senior (2 nights out a week)library (1 night a week), evening playouts with the band (1 night a week, at least) gave me only one night at home.

Then I met a bloke that rode bikes As far as my Mother was concerned I still had the same schedule, so I stayed out 6 nights a week, untill 10pm Was late once, she met me at the door with a wooden spoon, chased my boyfriend down the drive trying to whack him with it, then turned on me

I left home at 16 after receiving black eyes, split lips, torn ears from my father, and totally unreasonable boundaries from my Mother, all the while being reminded about my "good christian upbringing"

I did not want that for my kids. I wanted an honest relationship with them. I was a tough Mom, no doubt about that, they had rules, and they got consequences, but they loved it. I had kids with the full intention of raising responsible, contributing members of society, who would not remain dependant on me past when is appropriate.

Eldest daughter left home to attend uni at age 18. My son left home (well I turfed him out really) at 18, my baby left home at 19. I am proud of my kids and the job I did with them.

Fack me that sounds like a rough ride . +1 on the tough parenting though, they ain't gonna learn anything "good" from anyone else (or at least that's highly unlikely). Sounds like you did a mighty fine job Maam (I remember calling the movies the pictures too, and I could smoke in there too, tsk )... Currently I just want my 3 girls to play nicely together ... my Son is already out and about doing Art at Uni... 20 this year , me have much pride in that man .