Stranger moving your bike?

[PrincessBandit]

Right, so what is legitimate is defined by the markings provided by the institution or council body?

As shown in that example, what may be legitimate to the above might not apply so well in the real world.

There needs to be an understanding of what is legit/legal and what is considerate. If someone is parked legitimately but inconsiderately, there is really little to be done about it (other than leaving them a scary note...watch out kittens )
Despite it pissing you off that they could have parked more appropriately and thinking of others, as long as its legal then it's just a reflection on their selfishness (only thinking about themselves).
Legit parking, regardless of whether it works to your advantage or not as the "latecomer looking for a space" doesn't give you the right to think "oooh, I'll just move that bike a tad that way, then mine can fit right in".

[Smifffy]

Right, so what is legitimate is defined by the markings provided by the institution or council body?

As shown in that example, what may be legitimate to the above might not apply so well in the real world.

I thought you said earlier that legitimacy has nothing to do with it, if it inconveniences someone?

[jazfender]

If someone is parked legitimately but inconsiderately, there is really little to be done about it (other than leaving them a scary note...watch out kittens

Well is it illegal to move someone else's bike or not?

If it is, I would hazard a guess that legislation like that would be designed to prevent people from getting away with fucking with bikes for no reason.

I thought you said earlier that legitimacy has nothing to do with it, if it inconveniences someone?

My point was that you can still be parked "legitimately" as well as "inconsiderately" as demonstrated above. Therefore, whether it is legitimately parked or not has less bearing on the discussion.

[Camshaft]

i saw a note on someones bike today that politely told the person to not park LIKE AN ASSHOLE and be more considerate in future. thats all it takes, id rather some1 leave me harsh works than a key line down my paint or them touching my bike

[PrincessBandit]

Well is it illegal to move someone else's bike or not?

I dunno. Is it?



(I'm sure it's probably not if you want to be pedantic about it - it just pisses the owner off) edit: make that "some owners off" before you accuse me of ignoring those on here who said it should be ok.

[swbarnett]

Right, so what is legitimate is defined by the markings provided by the institution or council body?

Where they exist, yes. Off hand I can't think of a situation where parking in accordance with designated markings could be inconsiderate. Taking up a full car space with only one or two bikes I would not consider inconsiderate because the space is intended for only one vehicle anyway. Doing the same in a bike park (a car space or larger that's designated m/cycles only with no markings other than at the ends) on the other hand would be both illegitimate and inconsiderate (Which is how I initially appraised the situation referred to at Auckland uni).

As shown in that example, what may be legitimate to the above might not apply so well in the real world.

I thought about this and a question occurrs to me: In a bike park is it legally required that a bike be parked at right angles to the curb or is this just common courtesy because it allows the largest number of bikes to fit in the park?

[Max Preload]

open facer, so unless i need to take a leak, mine stays on.

I'm not even going to ask where you piss from that makes that necessary.

[jazfender]

(I'm sure it's probably not if you want to be pedantic about it - it just pisses the owner off) edit: make that "some owners off" before you accuse me of ignoring those on here who said it should be ok.

you need your own thread to talk to yourself..

Where they exist, yes.

So where they don't, what?

I thought about this and a question occurrs to me: In a bike park is it legally required that a bike be parked at right angles to the curb or is this just common courtesy because it allows the largest number of bikes to fit in the park?

Objectively, you would assume that the total area is what designates a space to park but you could argue that that space cannot be defined at all without lines to constrain it. it's whether the lines inside provide any kind of order aaaaand fuck i'm way too high for this.

[Owl]

Well is it illegal to move someone else's bike or not?

I dunno. Is it?

It's called unlawfully interfering with a motor vehicle.

Hopefully that'll clear it up.

Perhaps I should've added "Unfair Ticket" to the thread title. Then our resident officer's would've been chewing their arms off to read it.

[sunhuntin]

I'm not even going to ask where you piss from that makes that necessary.

i get glared at enough for daring to use the ladies that im not going to wear the helmet and risk all out war, lol. was in the locker room at the gym yesterday putting my rain gear on, shoulda seen the look on the chicks faces when they saw me in there.

[Smifffy]

From a cursory glance at the crimes act, the charge of interfering with a motor vehicle would not apply to someone who with honest intentions moved a bike:

226 Conversion of vehicle or other conveyance

(1) Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who, dishonestly and without claim of right, but not so as to be guilty of theft, takes or uses for his or her own purposes or another person's purposes—

(a) any vehicle, ship, or aircraft; or

(b) any part of any vehicle, ship, or aircraft; or

(c) any horse.

(2) Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years who attempts to commit the offence in subsection (1) or who, dishonestly and without claim of right, interferes with, or gets into or upon, any vehicle, ship, or aircraft.


The assault charge arising from responding to such an act would, however probably stick.

Fair enough I guess.

[Brayden]

Parking is tight at university so everyone is usually cool with moving bikes and scooter out of the way. If I can I will move a scooter instead of a bike. Also the 50cc's you can just pick up with 2 hands and completely move wherever you want

[theseekerfinds]

Parking is tight at university so everyone is usually cool with moving bikes and scooter out of the way. If I can I will move a scooter instead of a bike. Also the 50cc's you can just pick up with 2 hands and completely move wherever you want

I find that as the motorcycle parks fill up the gaps between bikes/scooters become inconsistent and I have had to shuffle over the odd 50cc scooter, always being careful not to let it touch the neighbouring bike, I only like to move the scooters though as they are easier to lift and less likely to cause problems with scooter or owner.. I wouldn't move a bike because of steering locks, disc locks and alarms..
I try to find spots where no moving is necessary but with so many scooters and bikes coming into Wellington these days it's either move and squeeze in or walk for friggin miles from some out of the way park.. yes I am a lazy arse

[PrincessBandit]

you need your own thread to talk to yourself..

Nah dork, I don't think so. I've just learnt that some people here need the "words of one syllable" variety of clarification. I think you're one of them.

[jazfender]

Nah dork, I don't think so. I've just learnt that some people here need the "words of one syllable" variety of clarification. I think you're one of them.

I think you're trolling..