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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    Ill add this , from a book written by a famous "Im not quite dead yet " smart person

    The people in the culture of poverty have a strong feeling of marginality, of helplessness, of dependency, of not belonging. They are like aliens in their own country, convinced that the existing institutions do not serve their interests and needs. Along with this feeling of powerlessness is a widespread feeling of inferiority, of personal unworthiness......
    There is only one person that can control an individuals feelings.

    Maybe they don't know how to feel any differently. Maybe the welfare payments are just perpetuating the problem. In that case don't we owe it to them to stop the payments and try something else?
    Keep on chooglin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    There is only one person that can control an individuals feelings.

    Maybe they don't know how to feel any differently. Maybe the welfare payments are just perpetuating the problem. In that case don't we owe it to them to stop the payments and try something else?
    both New York and Mexico are paying a lump sum of 5000 dollars to families who meet educational and lifestyle target as set down by government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    There is only one person that can control an individuals feelings.
    A happy well balance self actualised individual only. How many of those do you come across? Very few are in charge of their feelings.

    A good secure family goes a long way, as does a thriving community. Some individuals have nothing to work for, emotionally, no hope.
    Churches are monuments to self importance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
    You aint named Boris the Biter for nothing, are ya!

    You continue to live in your perfect world but when everything goes belly up and you end up in strife regardless of your awesome planning, saving etc don't complain!

    Got it?
    See that's the difference, i wouldn't be there with my hand out or complaining i would just get on and do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    What have you got against Africans?
    They tend to be arrogant self serving biggots who think the world owes them a living.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mully
    The mind boggles.

    Unless you were pillioning the sheep - which is more innocent I suppose (but no less baffling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    See that's the difference, i wouldn't be there with my hand out or complaining i would just get on and do it.
    Can you show me where Jim has ever held his hand out? Please?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mully
    The mind boggles.

    Unless you were pillioning the sheep - which is more innocent I suppose (but no less baffling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    See that's the difference, i wouldn't be there with my hand out or complaining i would just get on and do it.
    I hope it doesn't happen to you and if it does that you are in a position to get on and do it but that isn't always the case. In that case I hope you have the balls to admit you were wrong unlike most who live by glib quotes who always find excuses or ignore their mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    They tend to be arrogant self serving biggots who think the world owes them a living.
    That's the first I've heard.


    It's a bit hard to make a living when I can't find a job and when polytech don't want me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Can you show me where Jim has ever held his hand out? Please?
    Never said he did, nor have i said this was about him. Like i said i am talking generally and if he, or anyone else has taken offence by this then thats up to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    I hope it doesn't happen to you and if it does that you are in a position to get on and do it but that isn't always the case. In that case I hope you have the balls to admit you were wrong unlike most who live by glib quotes who always find excuses or ignore their mistakes.
    Me too, and trust me I could never ignore my mistakes as there would be way to many that would keep reminding me of them.

    I don't live by quotes, they are just quicker to type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    That's the first I've heard.


    It's a bit hard to make a living when I can't find a job and when polytech don't want me.
    Do you read some of your posts before you submit them?

    I have at least two guys a month come in looking for work. Not counting the drop kicks who think using the phone is 'looking'. In the 3 years I have been here there would be ummmmmmm none that I would have considered interviewing had I had a job going.

    • Personal grooming is important
    • your CV needs to be well presented
    • Attitude is everything. Attitude is everything. Attitude is everything.


    The best will in the world will not get anyone a job if their approach and attitude suck arse. And don't fool yourself. Most people over 35 can spot a bad attitude from a mile away.

    The few people I have thought 'might' one day be worth a look have all been made the same offer. Call in for a coffee on your free time. Hang around a bit. Watch what we do and how we do it. Ask intelligent questions. Give me the chance to see that you are keen and want to learn. I'm still waiting.

    I used to take leave from my real job and spend time here so I could learn and help out where I could. Never asked for anything in return. Eight years later I own the place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mully
    The mind boggles.

    Unless you were pillioning the sheep - which is more innocent I suppose (but no less baffling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    That's the first I've heard.


    It's a bit hard to make a living when I can't find a job and when polytech don't want me.
    Oh ... So you are still one of those bludgers living off the welfare state ...
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Do you read some of your posts before you submit them?

    I have at least two guys a month come in looking for work. Not counting the drop kicks who think using the phone is 'looking'. In the 3 years I have been here there would be ummmmmmm none that I would have considered interviewing had I had a job going.

    • Personal grooming is important
    • your CV needs to be well presented
    • Attitude is everything. Attitude is everything. Attitude is everything.


    The best will in the world will not get anyone a job if their approach and attitude suck arse. And don't fool yourself. Most people over 35 can spot a bad attitude from a mile away.

    The few people I have thought 'might' one day be worth a look have all been made the same offer. Call in for a coffee on your free time. Hang around a bit. Watch what we do and how we do it. Ask intelligent questions. Give me the chance to see that you are keen and want to learn. I'm still waiting.

    I used to take leave from my real job and spend time here so I could learn and help out where I could. Never asked for anything in return. Eight years later I own the place.
    Whenever I go into places to hand in my CV, I'm always really well presented. I don't go in wearing a hoodie and ripped up jeans, I wear a nice button up shirt, tidy dress pants and a pair of shoes to match.

    My CV is well presented and I have 2 references on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Oh ... So you are still one of those bludgers living off the welfare state ...
    I don't have much other choice if I can't find a job and when training institutions don't want to know about me.

    It sucks how I need qualifications to be accepted into a course, but I can't get any bloody qualifications unless I do a course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post


    I don't have much other choice if I can't find a job and when training institutions don't want to know about me.

    It sucks how I need qualifications to be accepted into a course, but I can't get any bloody qualifications unless I do a course!
    That's just bullshit mate ... there are plenty of bridging programmes to get you into the qualification path ... You're just like those lazy Māoris bludging off the welfare state you're always on about .. no better, no worse
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    That's just bullshit mate ... there are plenty of bridging programmes to get you into the qualification path ... You're just like those lazy Māoris bludging off the welfare state you're always on about .. no better, no worse
    No, definitely worse. He comes to "our" country mocks "our" natives and then lives off, of our welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    I wear a nice button up shirt, tidy dress pants and a pair of shoes to match.
    Do you have the tie to go with them though?

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