Fluoro vests?

[swbarnett]

Visual Proof
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That proves nothing.

People don't see us because they don't look! It matters not how bright you are unless you're in the habit of riding without lights on a moonless night on unlit roads.

Besides, put a black top box behind and a bright headlight in front and that jacket means nothing even to those that do look for us.

Another thought just occured to me - if a car's headlights are shining on the torso of a rider they're set way too high.

[swbarnett]

You cant argue that a Hi Viz does not work well at night.

I will accept that you can't argue against the fact that a Hi Viz at night is very bright given that the light shon on it is exactly at the right angle and the view of it isn't obstructed.

I will argue that it makes little or no difference if the offending driver is not looking for you in the first place.

[swbarnett]

Like he says, what's the issue? It's your choice ... at this time anyway.

Just don't moan about drivers not seeing your body size and black clothes if you get flattened by a car coming out of a side street at night - because your rear light and headlight are even less effective from the side!

This is my problem. This very attitude is what will lead to them becoming a legal requirement. I don't give a shit if you wear it, that's your choice. I choose not to. The least I expect is that those that wear them will respect my right to make that decision for myself. As I respect your right to decide for yourself.

[swbarnett]

I also ride with my headlight on high beam during the day - to hell with aggrevating other motorists,

Forget aggrevating, try blinding. Those of us with sensitive eyes don't stand a chance against a high beam. Even a 4WD on dip is a problem if I catch it straight in the mirror.

[Maha]

That proves nothing.

People don't see us because they don't look! It matters not how bright you are unless you're in the habit of riding without lights on a moonless night on unlit roads.

Besides, put a black top box behind and a bright headlight in front and that jacket means nothing even to those that do look for us.

Another thought just occured to me - if a car's headlights are shining on the torso of a rider they're set way too high.

Yeah you're right I am wrong, thanks for your comment.

[swbarnett]

Hang on, doesn't matter, your top box has a refective strip as do most jackets/back packs and rain suits.

Not mine. A silver patch but not reflective. And my rain suit is straight yellow PVC (and dirty at that).

[swbarnett]

I wear mine by default and will continue to do so

So what you're saying is that you don't think it will help but you wear it anyway?

[Mom]

Fuck off! Why would I want to look like a road cone?

Orange fluro is everywhere on the road, I want a point of difference

Yellow fluro is also everywhere, lots of workers wear it now, it is not unique, I want a point of difference

We are told we should wear Hi Viz for safety sake, apparently wearing it makes us safer on the road? I disagree, in a really LARGE way!

Fluro, HI VIZ vests are dime a dozen, you can buy them every where, ACC even give the things away free. I work in a office, where the most dangerous thing that can happen to me is a paper cut, or a bruise to my arm off the protruding lock on the ladies in the foyer , and there is a yellow fluro vest hanging up for the Fire Warden to don in the event of the fire alarm going off.

[MadDuck]

there is a yellow fluro vest hanging up for the Fire Warden to don in the event of the fire alarm going off.

Useful for tornados passing through as well I would have thought. Our fire wardens have orange ones...damn they look so sexy

[Mom]

So what you're saying is that you don't think it will help but you wear it anyway?

Read my post above, to get a guage on where I stand with the fluro vest issue. I will go postal if there is ever a move to make these things compulsory, however...

I am currently commuting in very low light/dusk/dark conditions. My commute is 100kms round trip, give or take. I have no problem out on the open road, the majority of my commute, but I have some "traffic" to negotiate close to work.

I need to be more visible Some of these wankers I share a road with have NO respect for 2 wheeled road users. I am invisible. After getting pissed off with a few close calls, I spent some money on a decent vest. It is so bright it almost gives a headache looking at it in daylight, putting light on it in low light/dark situations about sears the eyeballs. I dare anyone to miss "seeing me", though am taking insurance out on that score and am about to install LED riding lights to make me look less like a nothing, and more like a WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? in the dark

I wear what I want to make me feel safe and happy on the road. Fluro is not the answer. Everyone wears it these days. Really "vomit inducing" reflective tape has its merits, in certain circumstances, just dont MAKE me wear it!

[Mom]

Useful for tornados passing through as well I would have thought. Our fire wardens have orange ones...damn they look so sexy

I had a bit of a struggle with myself before investing money in a decent vest. Never in a million years I would have bought one ordinarily, such is my opposition to them. Blind Auckland car drivers changed that reasonablt quickly. Having said that, I have many downstairs, from various protest rides

[swbarnett]

I had a bit of a struggle with myself before investing money in a decent vest. Never in a million years I would have bought one ordinarily, such is my opposition to them. Blind Auckland car drivers changed that reasonablt quickly.

Does it appear to have made a difference?

[MIXONE]

Does it appear to have made a difference?

Did for me.The first morning commute wearing one 3 drivers tried to kill me.I thought it must have had a target on it.

[jaffaonajappa]

This:

Did for me.The first morning commute wearing one 3 drivers tried to kill me.I thought it must have had a target on it.

Is Gold.
+1

[Swoop]

I said I just like to give myself a better chance of being seen, I never said I was concerned.

If you are wearing a hi-viz vest then you must be concerned enough to wear it.

Yellow fluro is also everywhere, lots of workers wear it now, it is not unique

How true this comment is.
Yesterday I watched a bloke cutting the top out of a tree in the neighbour's back yard.
Only this one person working. Nobody else around anywhere.
He climbs the tree with a handsaw to do the job. What was he wearing?

Fucking hi-viz.

Totally pointless unless he was trying to alert birds to not land in the tree.