Fluoro vests?

[jaffaonajappa]

Compulsory vest wearing is not (and never will be) an issue for those who ride motorbikes. Its mostly in the heads of a select few that picked up on a notion thrown out there a few months ago by someone.

Its such a non issue that it relates, all to well, to a whole raft of motorcycle drama queen propaganda.

Im not so sure about that to be honest.
My workplace just had them forced upon us, new more PC ways of interpreting OSH shyte. If ACC types pluck even more bullshit twisted stats out their asses, and told the public 'fluoro vests will saves us $50M per year and reduce the road toll by 6 pa. Legislation would ramp up.

Some basic analysis would show vests have at least the potential to save someones skin at one point or another.....theres an argument they could present to Save us from ourselves.

Perhaps we could get a rally to parliament and sign a petition about it. The last outing worked well yes?

I guess......what Im getting at. Never assume your safe, either on the road, or with a PC bunch in gubbermint.

[NONONO]

Compulsory vest wearing is not (and never will be) an issue for those who ride motorbikes. Its mostly in the heads of a select few that picked up on a notion thrown out there a few months ago by someone.

Its such a non issue that it relates, all to well, to a whole raft of motorcycle drama queen propaganda.

Sorry mate, in what way is it "not (and never will be) an issue for those who ride motorcycles"?
It's certainly an issue for bikers in a lot of other countries. Did you mean it's not an issue in good ol NZ? Is that because this, and previous, governments are so interested in our thoughts that they listen to us?
Can't happen here eh?

[Maha]

Im not so sure about that to be honest.
My workplace just had them forced upon us, new more PC ways of interpreting OSH shyte. If ACC types pluck even more bullshit twisted stats out their asses, and told the public 'fluoro vests will saves us $50M per year and reduce the road toll by 6 pa. Legislation would ramp up.

Some basic analysis would show vests have at least the potential to save someones skin at one point or another.....theres an argument they could present to Save us from ourselves.

Perhaps we could get a rally to parliament and sign a petition about it. The last outing worked well yes?

I guess......what Im getting at. Never assume your safe, either on the road, or with a PC bunch in gubbermint.

In the work place yes, enforce it but this thread (your thread) is not about Hi Viz in the work place is it?
It has turned into a personal choice thread about whether you beleive in them and or, would wear one while out riding.

Sorry mate, in what way is it "not (and never will be) an issue for those who ride motorcycles"?
It's certainly an issue for bikers in a lot of other countries. Did you mean it's not an issue in good ol NZ? Is that because this, and previous, governments are so interested in our thoughts that they listen to us?
Can't happen here eh?

Its not an issue Phil, point me in the right direction where there has been any such comment made by the Government to the contrary?

[jaffaonajappa]

In the work place yes, enforce it but this thread (your thread) is not about Hi Viz in the work place is it?

There is little difference IMO between in the workplace, and on the roads.
Theres groups making rules and forcing them apon us, regardless of what we want to do.
My workplace, zero incidents or accidents in many years. Little chance of any occuring either. Safety committee reevaluate where they could possibly improve 'anything' and came up with this hair brained idea. Told the boss it costs perhaps $200 bucks to initiate, and 'could potentially prevent an accident'. Bingo, its pushed apon us. We play dress-ups at work....Employer can sleep well thinking its a "responsible" employer.

Whats to stop ACC/LTSA deciding similar is required on our roads? aka Ireland / learner req's?

[Maha]

There is little difference IMO between in the workplace, and on the roads.
Theres groups making rules and forcing them apon us, regardless of what we want to do.
My workplace, zero incidents or accidents in many years. Little chance of any occuring either. Safety committee reevaluate where they could possibly improve 'anything' and came up with this hair brained idea. Told the boss it costs perhaps $200 bucks to initiate, and 'could potentially prevent an accident'. Bingo, its pushed apon us. We play dress-ups at work....Employer can sleep well thinking its a "responsible" employer.

Whats to stop ACC/LTSA deciding similar is required on our roads? aka Ireland / learner req's?

Hi Viz in the work place can be hazzardous, several months ago I was work in a set of stairs in the Mitre10 Mega building here, one of the builders stepped over me on his way down said stairs and triped!...he was wearing his ''Hi Viz'' not as a vest, but tucked into the back of his jeans like a bit of rag. It got caught on his boot has he went by me...that Hi Viz could have caused him a nasty accident.

[GPXchick]

I was wearing a Fluro vest the other day When i was hit and run on the Panmure roundabout. A fluro does not help them spot you. However once seen it makes it easier to Keep seeing you..

[Ocean1]

I've been concerned to hear I may soon be required to wear a dayglo T shirt whilst out on my sabatical trundle.

I was hugely relieved, therefore to come across a genuine bargan. I acquired several such from an open market in Hawaii last week.





Funk'n sorted.

[FJRider]

Whats to stop ACC/LTSA deciding similar is required on our roads? aka Ireland / learner req's?

ACC/LTSA can decide what they like ... it's their reccomendations that (can) get laws changed ... not their instructions ...

Law CHANGES ... are made by Goverment ..

[ukusa]

wearing helmets whilst driving the car will save lives, more lives than what fluro vests would ever save. Rest assurred that this will probably be made compulsory in the next couple of years, along with cars made of foam rubber!
You heard it here first.

[NONONO]

In the work place yes, enforce it but this thread (your thread) is not about Hi Viz in the work place is it?
It has turned into a personal choice thread about whether you beleive in them and or, would wear one while out riding.



Its not an issue Phil, point me in the right direction where there has been any such comment made by the Government to the contrary?

Your right cocker, only "promoting" the wearing of hi viz at the moment.
Funny though, this was exactly the stance the Irish government took 2 years ago, and now?
Oh, and no mention of compulsory hi viz in France up to last year...
C'mon Mark, we know how difficult it is to generate traction here. Have to wait till it's all done and dusted and then try and complain when the deals are done.
Anyway, sorry, had to include this link, just couldn't help meself.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Say-No...073856?sk=wall

[NONONO]

Here ya go, perfect.
http://www.hivisbiker.com/Home_Page.php
No, wait, this is fkin wonderful, almost pissed myself and coughed up my beer at the same time, are they right in the head?
http://www.hivisbiker.com/Motorcycle_Safety.html

[Old Steve]

Nah mate, I'm sure it was Emanuel Kant. In fact I remember saying "hey Manny, wocha fink of floorow vests mate"

Nah, was Voltaire, rode an old Square 4. Think Kant must have had the quote in a pub quiz and thought he'd pinch it. Known for it Kant was.

Voltie also said "It's dangerous to be right, when the government is wrong". Knew a thing or two Voltaire did.

I've done a bit of research. This phrase is attributed to Evelyn Beatrice Hall, who paraphrased something Voltaire said. I kant be certain, but I think Ms Hall actually rode a Honda Dream. She quite fancied Voltaire, she let him stay over for a couple of nights once when his square 4 overheated.

[Oblivion]

Hi-viz during daylight: No.

Hi-viz at night: Yes.

Short simple answer.

[jaffaonajappa]

but I think Ms Hall actually rode a Honda Dream.

No. It really was a GN125.

[jazfender]

They should definitely make it compulsory for cars not to crash into other vehicles.