What's the deal with motards and F3?

[racefactory]

Surely the road racer would be off the side of the bike leaning over into the corner?

[Quasievil]

Thing I cant work out is why the handlebar? I mean that will upset the bike, if a sportsbike steals my inside line I normally stick the boot in to his thigh you know "charlie" style

[Kickaha]

Im still not sold on that one, I think youre dreaming bro

Ask K14, pretty sure he had something along those lines happen at Ruapuna

[lostinflyz]

most of the issues i know have always been with guys who are new to racing or uncomfortable (street racing). Thus the whole not off the bike leaning into the corner thing.

Anyway if anyone wanted a motard/f3 eligible bike you could convert a proper motard to a Road race bike in about 20 minutes if designed right. We could do the conversion shown in the video below in about that time if we thought about it right, with either road or off road forks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDwxanI8Hx8

[racefactory]

That is very cool...

[Newo]

Agreed. Nice lookin bike too.

[Wingnut]

most of the issues i know have always been with guys who are new to racing or uncomfortable (street racing). Thus the whole not off the bike leaning into the corner thing.

Anyway if anyone wanted a motard/f3 eligible bike you could convert a proper motard to a Road race bike in about 20 minutes if designed right. We could do the conversion shown in the video below in about that time if we thought about it right, with either road or off road forks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDwxanI8Hx8

Hey Tim - You should build one of those!!!!

[lostinflyz]

i want to. but as im a couple k short of making my bike ready for the season i can't.

but if someone had a 450 and wanted to do it most of the bits to do it are in the garage or a call away

[budda]

i want to. but as im a couple k short of making my bike ready for the season i can't.

but if someone had a 450 and wanted to do it most of the bits to do it are in the garage or a call away

Thanks for putting up the vid Tim - the guys in the States are running standard Frames, Swingarms, Subframe, Radiators, essentially just change the front end to either road forks ( or shorten the dirt ones, which works well ), shorten the shock, fit rearsets/tailpiece/fairing and asstd brackets, and TAH DAAAAH .........

Similar power to weight ratio to a stock 600, light enough for a smaller rider, cheap enough to build, AND YOU CAN CONVERT IT BACK TO DIRT if you have absolutely no taste and dont enjoy yourself

[lostinflyz]

Thanks for putting up the vid Tim - the guys in the States are running standard Frames, Swingarms, Subframe, Radiators, essentially just change the front end to either road forks ( or shorten the dirt ones, which works well ), shorten the shock, fit rearsets/tailpiece/fairing and asstd brackets, and TAH DAAAAH .........

Similar power to weight ratio to a stock 600, light enough for a smaller rider, cheap enough to build, AND YOU CAN CONVERT IT BACK TO DIRT if you have absolutely no taste and dont enjoy yourself

yip, i think you could have a great club racing bike by just tweaking stock front, rear, rearsets, fairings and clipons. Probably need triples (same cost as replacement front end!!!). but outside that you'd be there. Would be very competitive at club level, and not disgraceful at nats i would imagine. You could do the entire conversion for only 2-3k, depending how much you would do yourself and being intelligent.

My understanding is for anything normal (i.e. not the aprilia, but kxf, RMZ, CRF, RMZ, KTM) racetech can do road race appropriate springs for Supermono conversions for stock fronts, and the rears even easier. I would love to build one up properly to see how quick you could get one on a bog stock 450 motor.

FYI the fastest in the states (not sure about the UK, and in Spain they run a marzochi special front end) have all been on stock front and rear ends, albeit modified. And thats judged by some properly fast fellers.

[gimpy]

i once raced my F3 bike in motards one year at the battle of the streets ,I couldn't get an entry into F3 because it was full of motard bikes cross entering so I entered in motards as it was technically eligable ,started from the back of the grid and won the race ,fuck you should of heard the moaning from the motard riders after that ,funny as fuck.

[slowpoke]

i once raced my F3 bike in motards one year at the battle of the streets ,I couldn't get an entry into F3 because it was full of motard bikes cross entering so I entered in motards as it was technically eligable ,started from the back of the grid and won the race ,fuck you should of heard the moaning from the motard riders after that ,funny as fuck.

Haha, that's farkin' brilliant!

[codgyoleracer]

i once raced my F3 bike in motards one year at the battle of the streets ,I couldn't get an entry into F3 because it was full of motard bikes cross entering so I entered in motards as it was technically eligable ,started from the back of the grid and won the race ,fuck you should of heard the moaning from the motard riders after that ,funny as fuck.

I heard the organisers that year made the decision to let you enter/race for the following reasons

1) "Weve never seen that bike finish a race so may as well let him enter anyway"
2) "That thing looks like its about to fall apart - may as well let him race it"
3) "Its way to small to be competitve anyway - may as well let it race"

Same theory applied to me in last year champs.............. DOH ! :-)

[k14]

Ask K14, pretty sure he had something along those lines happen at Ruapuna

Yep, came through pothole on my 125 and got up along side a motard. When he opened the throttle my passing momentum was cancelled and we were side by side. I am not sure if it was me or both of us but we moved towards each other and his handlebar got caught on my neck right under my helmet. I tried to move to the side but I think I sat up a little when I did that. I felt the handlebar go away and thought we both got away free. However I looked back to see him sliding on his arse in the grass beside the track. When I moved up I think I just made his bike fall right over. So I guess it was the motard that got damaged in the end, the rules are made to protect them

[crazy man]

i once raced my F3 bike in motards one year at the battle of the streets ,I couldn't get an entry into F3 because it was full of motard bikes cross entering so I entered in motards as it was technically eligable ,started from the back of the grid and won the race ,fuck you should of heard the moaning from the motard riders after that ,funny as fuck.

ha ha good one would of loved to see you put one over the buggers