Mike, are you Mikey?

[Maha]

Apology to Mike/Mikey or whoever you are, I confused you with Marty.

[_Shrek_]

StoneY said you were a raceist

we're all raceist at one time or another it's human nature

[theseekerfinds]

I'm still seething over that wanker Smith saying that motorcylists were "responsible" for the accidents they have.. what a prick!! and you guys were mad about being represented by Mike.. Smith said we are responsible for all the accidents we are involved in, not just laying the entire blame at our feet on national tv but saying it in an unambiguous way.. it's all our fault, so we should be made to pay more!! I think that should be more of the focus of your vitriol than the biker who fronts up..

nice work Mike, love the old school ride

[Katman]

I'm still seething over that wanker Smith saying that motorcylists were "responsible" for the accidents they have.. what a prick!! and you guys were mad about being represented by Mike.. Smith said we are responsible for all the accidents we are involved in, not just laying the entire blame at our feet on national tv but saying it in an unambiguous way.. it's all our fault, so we should be made to pay more!! I think that should be more of the focus of your vitriol than the biker who fronts up..

Comprehension's not your strong-point, is it?

[theseekerfinds]

Comprehension's not your strong-point, is it?

nope, spelling mainly with grammar a strong second..

[Katman]

nope, spelling mainly with grammar a strong second..

Let me guess - you're one of those "all motorcycle accidents are the fault of the fucking cager" retards, aren't you?

[The Lone Rider]

With due respect, action also commands reaction, responsibility and accountability!

Unfortunately I believe you inadvertently played into the hands of the enemy! (Nick Smith and ACC)

You unwittingly gave the TV program the opportunity to present you as a typical irresponsible loser biker that "they" must protect the rest of the motoring world from at all costs!

Majority people that I have heard comment or have spoken to have expressed this reaction!

I saw it that way myself.

Having worked in multimedia including video, live, and published...

Unless you are specifically the one to edit, publish, or have final say on any form of video, written, or broadcast then you have zero control over the way things are presented.

Your post above can easily be quoted and written about in the same fashion, to make you sound like an angry irresponsible motorcyclist.

Likewise, any good natured home video at a bike rally, or photos at a gathering, can be made to look like a bunch of deviants who do nothing but cause trouble.

The media make it as they will.

You can either approach the media and hope for the best, and often be misquoted or taken out of context, or you can fade into the background and say nothing.

An easy example of this, is the fact everyone here is focusing on the person in the video rather than the ongoing issue of the ACC levies. And if you think it's fair representation, I'd question why the Bronz reps interview was cut to a mere sentence or two.

Theres some saying "Mikey" has fallin into a trap by ACC.

If anything, a lot of people are falling into the trap of media presenting a story in a way they see fit.

No media is fully representative.

I'm sure Jon Stewart would have had a good time with the original raw footage.


If you have a real issue, contact the broadcast standards authority or tv show and state you feel the story was presented purposefully in a way that inaccurately construes motorcyclist/bikers in a negative fashion.

And maybe someone try and get their hand on the raw footage. Interviewers tend to prod until they get things said they want them said.

[riffer]

Let me guess - you're one of those "all motorcycle accidents are the fault of the fucking cager" retards, aren't you?

I don't think anyone actually believes that any more Steve. The latest figures from Charlie Lamb, who has done a shitload of research on that subject, does show that NZ motorcyclists are to blame a slightly great percentage of the time than in other countries, but the fact remains that 66% of all multi-vehicle crashes involving motorcycles are caused by the other vehicle, predominantly a car (the rest of the world its about 70% other party).

The amount of single-vehicle motorcycle accidents remains about 40% of all crashes, identical with overseas results.

What is an issue is that almost every single crash involving a motorcycle in which the rider is killed alcohol, drugs or stupidly excessive speed are involved.

It really is gene-o-clean in action.

So, the likelihood of getting killed on a bike is lessened hugely if you don't mix riding with drink, drugs or stupid speed.

However, its difficult to avoid getting injured by car drivers doing stupid shit.

[Katman]

However, its difficult to avoid getting injured by car drivers doing stupid shit.

We should try harder.

[riffer]

We should try harder.

Yes we should. It should start when we are little, and we should be teaching the young kids when they are first learning to ride. Start with situational awareness and road safety, and respect for everything else on the road. Teach the car drivers too - NZers need to learn to respect EVERYONE on the road.

[Edbear]

We should try harder.

I actually agree with you here. I've never been knocked off by anyone or had an accident caused by a car driver. (I've actually never had an accident on a bike.) I've had a few close calls, but reflexes, defensive driving/riding and being alert and aware, has saved me on numerous occasions in my 40+ years on bikes.

While there are and have been, (and no doubt will be in future), accidents that the biker could do little or nothing to avoid, the way I've seen many riders behave, leaves them little or no margin for error, even if they think they are riding well. The fact that the consequences are so severe, means we, the more vulnerable, need to ride extra defensively with an eye on our margins.

[FJRider]

However, its difficult to avoid getting injured by car drivers doing stupid shit.

It's quite easy to avoid most of them ... if you are ANYWHERE near a car on the road ... EXPECT them to do stupid shit. TOO often ... they will ... and you will be ready ...

[The Lone Rider]

Can someone please give me the date and time this aired on TV? I did not catch it when it aired, but only saw the online snippet.

I will be laying a formal complaint to the chief exec of broadcasting for TVNZ.

Others feel free to join in. I don't believe the portrayal of motorcyclists/bikers was in anyway accurate or fair. And that is a breech of broadcasting standards.

[_Shrek_]

Can someone please give me the date and time this aired on TV? I did not catch it when it aired, but only saw the online snippet.

I will be laying a formal complaint to the chief exec of broadcasting for TVNZ.

Others feel free to join in. I don't believe the portrayal of motorcyclists/bikers was in anyway accurate or fair. And that is a breech of broadcasting standards.

you will have to modify your statment as part of their portrayal is true, because there is a small % of motorcyclists/bikers/bikies that are total tossers

[Katman]

I will be laying a formal complaint to the chief exec of broadcasting for TVNZ.

Good luck with that. I can't see them taking the slightest notice of your complaint.

As Shrek said, the story was accurate in that there are in fact many motorcyclists refusing to pay their rego at the moment.