Race numbers - a bitch...

[Skunk]

140mm high.
No overlap.
Visible at a 20 metre ride-by.
Stewards call final.

Pretty simple - all riders at Actrix Winter Series Round 3 should know it - I read it out. Use the screen if the fairing isn't big enough.
The simple thing is it must be able to be read by the flag points as you approach them from as far away as possible.

[NordieBoy]

MNZ are dealing with it.
If the number is not clear, visible and readable at next round, the bike won't be on the track. It is as simple as that.

But it could be clear, visible and readable and not legal?

[MSTRS:Me]

But it could be clear, visible and readable and not legal?

That's the important bit. If it takes 'legal' to achieve it, then so be it.
The riders can moan all they like, but the rules are, and mostly always have been, clear. The skirting of the rules has got to the point where something had to be done.

[FROSTY:Me]

Numbers on the side panels will upset the paint scheme.....

whoopdee dooo- The numbers need to be visible -and so far you have offered excuses

[Shaun]

140mm high.
No overlap.
Visible at a 20 metre ride-by.
Stewards call final.

Pretty simple - all riders at Actrix Winter Series Round 3 should know it - I read it out. Use the screen if the fairing isn't big enough.
The simple thing is it must be able to be read by the flag points as you approach them from as far away as possible.

Put it in the sub regs, bring Back SCRUITINEERING ( For other safety reasons also) and send any one back if they do not comply, simple

[Shaun]

That's the important bit. If it takes 'legal' to achieve it, then so be it.
The riders can moan all they like, but the rules are, and mostly always have been, clear. The skirting of the rules has got to the point where something had to be done.

The skirting of the rules come down to all becoming fashion victims and NO SCRUITINEERING any more??????? Which in my opinion at CLUB racing is NOT safe!

A lot of the people ( NO INSULT INTENDED) Can NOT even operate a shovel let alone Spanners

[RobGassit]

whoopdee dooo

Is it just me, or is there a typo in your sig?

[quickbuck]

whoopdee dooo- The numbers need to be visible -and so far you have offered excuses

Frosty, they are plenty big enough. The issue the Flaggies told me they had was the Numbers on the front could not be seen intime to give the flag to.
Pointless having visible numbers on the side if they can only read them when the bike has already gone past......

I had a mate take photos of me from the pit wall, and at 20 metres away you can clearly see the number on the RHS of my nose fairing, cery clearly.
At 120 metres you can still see my number, no problems..... And I bet the flaggies on start finish have a better view then he had.

My only beef is to get my numbers big enough I have to pick which side to put them on, as 140mm numbers will not fit nicely, but they do where I have them.

As for using the screen (as skunk suggested), well that would be an option IF my bike wasn't road registered. It also has to comply with a WOF. I don't think you are allowed to actually cover your screen with orange paint? Could be wrong though.... Oh, and I do actually look through it!

I have actually come up with a solution (if you wish to look in the post you quoted from), that should keep all happy.....

[MSTRS:Me]

The skirting of the rules come down to all becoming fashion victims and NO SCRUTINEERING any more??????? Which in my opinion at CLUB racing is NOT safe!

I tend to agree with that.
And in my opinion, MNZ got it wrong when they allowed a single number on the top of a tail fairing, too. They need to go back to one each side, and it's up to the rider to ensure it is somewhere visible (either on the tail piece or on the main fairing).

[Shaun]

I tend to agree with that.
And in my opinion, MNZ got it wrong when they allowed a single number on the top of a tail fairing, too. They need to go back to one each side, and it's up to the rider to ensure it is somewhere visible (either on the tail piece or on the main fairing).

Cool to the first part, but the Single number on top is a practicall decision to the modern built styling of bikes by the manufacturers.

[quickbuck]

I tend to agree with that.
And in my opinion, MNZ got it wrong when they allowed a single number on the top of a tail fairing, too. They need to go back to one each side, and it's up to the rider to ensure it is somewhere visible (either on the tail piece or on the main fairing).

Holy Cow!

Better write to Kawasaki and tell them they have stuffed up the design of the 250R.

If I put on a tail piece big enough to hold 4 digets, then I could be accused of enharncing the aerodynamics, and having an advantage..... And believe me, I could

[Tony.OK]

Holy Cow!

Better write to Kawasaki and tell them they have stuffed up the design of the 250R.

If I put on a tail piece big enough to hold 4 digets, then I could be accused of enharncing the aerodynamics, and having an advantage..... And believe me, I could

If your # can be seen from a distance on the "other" side of the front from pit wall, then don't you think that centering it on the front would be better? Your argument that the nose is too sharp doesn't really hold water does it if it's visible from the wrong side.
Yup 2 #'s on a modern tail just ain't possible on alot of bikes, my 08 CBR1000rr hardly had room for one correct size set of 42's.
I think a clear # of any size you can fit on the sides of the main fairing would be helpful though, most bikes have a bit of room somewhere, just keep 'em plain.

[quickbuck]

If your # can be seen from a distance on the "other" side of the front from pit wall, then don't you think that centering it on the front would be better? Your argument that the nose is too sharp doesn't really hold water does it if it's visible from the wrong side.
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Ah, Tony, I was TOLD it was Too sharp and the number couldn't be read.
I have no clue, as I can't see any numbers from the cockpit, so can only go off what people tell me....
I only found evidence to the contrary today, when I saw the photos.

The front is actually smaller than the sides.

I do notice there are some quite clear numbers on the bikes in the Ninja cup, BUT TV does lie a little at a guess.

[MSTRS:Me]

Yup 2 #'s on a modern tail just ain't possible on a lot of bikes, my 08 CBR1000rr hardly had room for one correct size set of 42's.
I think a clear # of any size you can fit on the sides of the main fairing would be helpful though, most bikes have a bit of room somewhere, just keep 'em plain.

Which is the alternative position when a tailpiece aint big enough.
The whole point of numbers is to ensure that eyes on the ground can see them. Having one on top of the tailpiece just doesn't cut it, from a marshal's pov.

Please believe me...MNZ is getting serious about this issue (as are we, trackside)...who wants to go back to separate number boards like these days

[Shaun]

Which is the alternative position when a tailpiece aint big enough.
The whole point of numbers is o ensure that eyes on the ground can see them. Having one on top of the tailpiece just doesn't cut it, from a marshal's pov.

So how does it work in the other countries around the world that use this system then?

Marshalls are NOT police man