Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Sorry. Unfortunately I do not have details of that site.Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46
Another new location was developed by an asian chappy.
The kitchen was so bad that cabinet doors were all over the show. A prospective customer mentioned the state of the kitchen and the asian gentleman said [asian accent]"kiwi's too fussy!!" [/asian accent].
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
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That wouldn't be a certain Developer who imported his labour from Fiji would it?My opinion of concrete guys went up some time back.
Out West there was an indian guy "developing" some land with 4 houses which were exactly the same design. Exactly the same.
Foundations inspected and signed off prior to the concrete pour.
Concrete arrives and there isn't any steel reinforcing... BUT the next foundations along (which didn't have any steel) miraculously now has all its steel sitting and ready!
"Developer" says "pour the concrete!".
Concrete fellah says "get stuffed" and proceeds to call council to alert them.
the houses had to be seen to be believed...
There was also a foundation guy in Browns Bay, 30 yrs ago who used to do that......until a minor landslip exposed a broken footing bereft of any form of reinforcement......
Nope - I didn't do an apprenticeship but went into building when I quit Uni.in 1971 (My brother, father and several uncles & great uncles were all Chippies) After 7-8 yrs, working in every form of building I could, including Joinery and Cabinetmaking factories, I applied to the Trade Certs Board (seeing as how it looked like I would be building for a while), and they approved me to go to Tech and sit the Trade Cert and later, Advanced Trade Cert in Carpentry. This is early 80's Christchurch.The cualfactions you mention were either not around when I did my time and or were not reconisble, and appretiship was it as it was for all trades.
Building a house isn't exactly rocket science, you just have to be very careful, espec. in NZ on the detail work - flashings, overlaps, capillary joints are often overlooked - the record for water tracking we've seen was 15m! from point of ingress to where the leak became obvious! As FC says, water pressure can be a major factor - I've seen amounts of water coming into a new house, that flooded the floor everytime it rained - a pole house, with Hardietex cladding, we tracked it to where the builder had missed the stud with a fixing clout and pulled it out - it was never sealed when the external spray texture went on ....
I got so disillusioned in the 90's with new housing, I went into maintaining and rebuilding old and heritage buildings - yes - they leak as well......
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Missed reading a couple of pages so apologies if this has already been said.
The "cheapest" building methods in New Zealand are still bloody expensive. When I had a simple house built in 1997 I could have bought two in Australia for the same money. Yes I know they don't have earthquakes but even so, the cost of building even a basic box here is damned high.
I honestly do not think we can blame the average owner for needing to take the cheap options. They don't have much choice and if the products are approved and the builders know what to do - why would there be problems? It isn't as if building a house is a new idea - we've been doing it for 6000 years.
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"a pole house, with Harditex cladding"
All buildings leak and always have (somewhere). The better ones are/were either designed (usually very conservatively / bland) to minimise and manage water ingress and/or/are/were built of more durable materials and in a way (drafty) that greatly mitigated potential for damage. Even then there has always been plenty of instances where damage repairs have been more than they needed to be (often involving visually obvious but historically ignored leaks)
I have never been able to understand that. And why people in Oz & Fiji can/have been able to buy NZ materials (timber and gib in particular) cheaper (after all the additional shipping costs) than we could buy the same product locally. I doubt that would have anything to do with the old business round table days and/or any sort of protectionism though
... so I just can't figure it out.
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one placenta
...the kiwi, although being quite an energetic and curious bird, is still an endangered forest dwelling creature...it scurries around the forest floor, looking for the fattest and juiciest grubs...it also has the strangest tendency to loft its arsehole skywards and let any passing hawk or even these days , magpies and sweet talking doves, swoop in and fuck it 'til it was senseless....and senseless is the kiwi, as it trudges off home, to it's warm pile of leaf litter and twigs...its been a hard day at the office...'will there be a few more fat grubs tomorrow'. it thinks...but not a lot of thought goes into why its arse is sore...
Una Storia Italiana
That sir... is farking funny
cheers DD
(Definately Dodgy)
Weekend cruiser
That sir... is farking funny
But wait it's not funny it's a true story
Fair weather rider
My mother was one of the first people involved in tissue culture of plants for forestry, this was in the early 1980's. She could "create" about 1000 Pinus from one "needle".... Trust me, those tree's are all specimans of the same thing - and we know what happens if you stop having genetic diversity and variety, (or we start "making" stuff - a'la "a sheep called dolly!") Eventually it doesn't end well!
Commercial forestry was certainly "assisted" then - I can't imagine it's not now...
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Has anyone else read this?
Leaky Buildings II.
Ms Wells said 10,000 new tradespeople were expected to rebuild quake-hit Christchurch and if even a small proportion of them did dodgy renovations, she said, the costs would be enormous.
"We're looking at a $30 billion rebuild.
Of interest are the reports of builders leaving the city since their work has dried up! The council has not got off its arse with issuing building permits. Their bureauracy runs rampant, still.
The second issue is insurance. You might have noticed a SUBSTANTIAL increase in your insurance premiums...
Builders cannot get insurance cover for new work and this is a requirement prior to commencing a new build. It appears is if the insurance companies willing to cover builders has decreased to just two!
Also, do you own a house on the top of a cliff? Are you looking at buying one?
Good luck getting any insurance cover for your property!
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
one placenta
...10,000 new tradespeople is a bit of a misnomer really...a few will be tradesman, a lot will be good enough to call , experienced in some field, and the vast bulk will be poorly trained tools for the gathering of money for the crooks in charge of the rebuild...if it ever kicks off..and the dodginess has been obvious from day one and wont improve...
In the riders seat
On the way home tonight they said on the news that for this month there was a 100% increase in permits issued over this time last year, but they didn't give total numbers
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Aio ki te Aorangi
money makes the world go around the world go around the world go around, money makes the world go around... fuckin insurance company's
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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I regard the rebuild efforts to date as an embarrassment. Fletchers should be sacked and replaced with one of those Chinese construction giants that builds whole cities from scratch in as little as three years. Watched a time lapse video of a 45 story apartment building being built in just 15 weeks (fully finished ready to live in). Our country has been castrated by red tape.
Chinese investors (within China) have started looking for large scale building investments around the world that they can and will finance as long as there is a payday. Kill two birds with one stone, sell them chch with an undertaking to buy it back off them for pre agreed $ when they finish re-building it. (have to suspend NZ law there for a while to make it workable)
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
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They haven't been called permits since 91. I wonder how many were demolition consents
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
In the riders seat
Well consents or whatever the fuck they call them, 100% increase in some building shit anyway
They didn't say anything about demolition
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
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