Radar over concrete barrier?

[Jack Miller]

A couple of questions for anyone in the know:
Are radar readings of speed from a moving patrol car on the opposite side of the motorway over a concrete barrier considered accurate enough to prove a speeding infringement?
Also, if one was issued a ticket for say 21kph over the limit at a time where one's speedometer was inoperable due to a broken speedo cable would it be advisable to mention this when raising a matter for consideration of the circumstances or contesting the ticket?
Cheers

Don't mention the broken speedo but fight it to the end. They will almost certainly drop the charges if you keep at them - they did for me. Did they have three clear seconds with you in their sights? Anything less is an inaccurate reading and they rarely achieve it -their sneaky tactics invariably compromise this important element. The steel reinforcing in the barrier could influence RADAR but probably not IR - what did they use? Search this forum and you'll find plenty of coppers posting how they simply give up if the "perp" fights back even when the cop is convinced the perp is guilty.

Anyway, there are a raft of tactics that can be deployed to get them to drop charges. Too many to list here though. aussiespeedingfines.com is a good place to start. (No affiliation except as a happy customer)

[racefactory]

Fight it to the end. If you fight it and keep at it, you will win. Ignore these guys blabbing about paying up and bending over. Too much of that in this country.

[Kickaha]

Fight it to the end. If you fight it and keep at it, you will win. Ignore these guys blabbing about paying up and bending over. Too much of that in this country.

To much of cunts not accepting responsibility for their actions as well

[ducatilover]

Did you wave?

[Jack Miller]

To much of cunts not accepting responsibility for their actions as well

Yeah, too many cops not accepting responsibility for their reckless enforcement tactics. Like Bridgman who fought to the bitter end after maiming Collins and Russel: "Mr Collins said Bridgman's refusal to accept culpability for the accident had angered both men and it was hugely gratifying to have him made responsible (by the court) for his actions and face the consequences."
http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/gross...-60000/5/14882

Will the cop who killed a motorcyclist by stopping on a double yellow line earlier this month accept responsibility?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5250...lice-car-named
I doubt it.

[scumdog]

Yeah, too many cops not accepting responsibility for their reckless enforcement tactics. Like Bridgman who fought to the bitter end after maiming Collins and Russel: "Mr Collins said Bridgman's refusal to accept culpability for the accident had angered both men and it was hugely gratifying to have him made responsible (by the court) for his actions and face the consequences."
http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/gross...-60000/5/14882

Will the cop who killed a motorcyclist by stopping on a double yellow line earlier this month accept responsibility?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5250...lice-car-named
I doubt it.

So that's two cops so far....and with the second one your doing what you probably don't like cops to do..assuming

[Kickaha]

Yeah, too many cops not accepting responsibility for their reckless enforcement tactics. Like Bridgman who fought to the bitter end after maiming Collins and Russel:

I did fail maths at school but I think that makes one?

Will the cop who killed a motorcyclist by stopping on a double yellow line earlier this month accept responsibility?

Why should he?

So that's two cops so far....and with the second one your doing what you probably don't like cops to do..assuming

It's ok for the general public to do it but not you filthy donut munchers, it's called double standards

[Scuba_Steve]

Will the cop who killed a motorcyclist by stopping on a double yellow line earlier this month accept responsibility?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5250...lice-car-named
I doubt it.

Why should he?

Yea I'm with Kickaha on that one, da PIG wasn't at fault

[Jack Miller]

Will the cop who killed a motorcyclist by stopping on a double yellow line earlier this month accept responsibility?

Why should he?

There is a photo of the Cop's car parked on the double yellow line with the smashed scooter beside it. Prima facie that is reckless driving causing death, if not manslaughter. It's a smoking gun scenario. Sure the Popo has a defense under Section 1.8.b. If he or she can PROVE that the illegal parking act was necessary to the execution of their duty (and couldn't they have asked the person to stop at a safe place?) AND that it didn't create a risk of death or injury. Good luck proving that!

[scumdog]

There is a photo of the Cop's car parked on the double yellow line with the smashed scooter beside it. Prima facie that is reckless driving causing death, if not manslaughter. It's a smoking gun scenario. Sure the Popo has a defense under Section 1.8.b. If he or she can PROVE that the illegal parking act was necessary to the execution of their duty (and couldn't they have asked the person to stop at a safe place?) AND that it didn't create a risk of death or injury. Good luck proving that!

Break out the violins and cry me a river....

[scumdog]

Prima facie that is reckless driving causing death, if not manslaughter.

done a bit of law huh.....

[Kickaha]

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So what have you done about except whine online?

[Kickaha]

done a bit of law huh.....

I think he's related to DB

[Jack Miller]

So what have you done about except whine online?

Made an Official Information Act request for all available data on deaths & maimings involving traffic police cars split into those where the victim was breaking the law and those who were not. So far they have stalled me but I am still pursuing it. Once I have the information I will compare the number of innocent maimings and fatalities per km traveled by traffic police cars with the national average. My preliminary research suggests that it is much higher for traffic police. If the full data confirms these initial findings I will include it in the submission I am preparing for the 2020 NZ Land Transport Safety Strategy.

[thepom]

Good on ya jack,its bad enough joe public trying to kill us and it does,nt help with the coppers doing it too.....