Learner licence scooting

[Jamesnicholasnz]

Even if you only plan to ride a scooter, it still might be worth getting your 6L, because soon you're either going to have to get that or a 6M.


Also, check out the scooter section on this forum for plenty of reading. Threads like this might be useful to you, as well as the "What scooter should I get" type.

Can i get my 6L on my 1L? And as they are changing the law as of Monday up to sixteen. Does that include motorcycle licence? Thanks James

[Jamesnicholasnz]

Even if you only plan to ride a scooter, it still might be worth getting your 6L, because soon you're either going to have to get that or a 6M.


Also, check out the scooter section on this forum for plenty of reading. Threads like this might be useful to you, as well as the "What scooter should I get" type.

Can I get a 6L when in my 1L? And as they are changing the law on Monday. Does that include motorcycle licence? Cheers James

[davereid]

Even for a Moped you will need a class 6 licence soon. Its a class 6M I think. You wont be able to legally ride on a car licence.

So do the motorcycle learners. Same cost, no harder, and may open a new world.

16 is the age now.

[Jamesnicholasnz]

Can I get a 6L when in my 1L? And as they are changing the law on Monday. Does that include motorcycle licence? Cheers James

Thanks man I was just trying to figure out how to use this site. First time on here ya see. Wasn't expecting to get so many replys. So anyway thanks guys. Cheers James.

[Jamesnicholasnz]

Even if you only plan to ride a scooter, it still might be worth getting your 6L, because soon you're either going to have to get that or a 6M.


Also, check out the scooter section on this forum for plenty of reading. Threads like this might be useful to you, as well as the "What scooter should I get" type.

Can i get my 6L on my 1L? And as they are changing the law as of Monday up to sixteen. Does that include motorcycle licence? Thanks James

[Spearfish]

Can i get my 6L on my 1L? And as they are changing the law as of Monday up to sixteen. Does that include motorcycle licence? Thanks James

You can get a 6L without a 1L its only the HT classes that graduate up the classes.
You could be out of luck.

[Jamesnicholasnz]

You can get a 6L without a 1L its only the HT classes that graduate up the classes.
You could be out of luck.

Ok thanks for that. Appreciate it guys.

[DangerMice]

I can't remember what conditions are on the 6M, such as hours you can ride like on a 6L. Anyone else remember?

[Jamesnicholasnz]

I can't remember what conditions are on the 6M, such as hours you can ride like on a 6L. Anyone else remember?

What is this 6M is there a licence for a moped now. If you apply for a 6L do you get a 6M. Have never heard of a 6M before or is that a completely different licence.
Cheers James.

[DangerMice]

It's a bike license specifically for mopeds (scooters). Comes into effect 2012

from: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation...dment-2011.pdf


15 New heading and clauses 19A and 19B inserted
The following heading and clauses are inserted after clause 19:
“Moped licences
“19A Obtaining moped licence
“(1) A person is entitled to be issued with a Class 6M licence if the person—
“(a) is 15 years of age or over at the date of application for the licence: and
“(b) has made an application in accordance with clause 9 and complied with the requirements of clauses 10 to 14; and
“(c) passes the theory test under clause 45; and “(d) produces a certificate of successful completion of the basic handling skills test under clause 48; and
“(e) produces a medical certificate in accordance with clause 44, in the case of person who is 75 years of age or over at the date of application for the licence.
“(2) To avoid doubt, a moped licence entitles the holder to drive a moped only and does not entitle the holder to drive any other motor vehicle.
“19B Conditions of Class 6M licence
“(1) A Class 6M licence authorises the holder to drive a moped only.
“(2) The holder of a Class 6M licence must not carry another person on the moped or in a sidecar attached to the moped.

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50 Transitional provisions
(1) A photographic driver licence issued by the Agency before the commencement of this rule remains valid until the licence is renewed even if that format of the licence does not comply with the requirements of these rules.
(2) In order to obtain a Class 6M licence, a moped only rider must, within 3 years after the commencement of this rule, complete the moped-specific basic handling skills test and pass the motorcycle theory test.
(3) To avoid doubt, subclause (2) does not apply to the holder of a Class 6, 6L, or 6R licence.

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Explanatory note
This note is not part of the rule, but is intended to indicate its general effect.
This rule, which comes into force on [1 July 2011], amends the Land Transport (Driver Licensing) Rule 1999.
The rule is an ordinary rule made under the Land Transport Act 1998.
The objective of the rule is set out in Schedule 1. A statement of the consultation undertaken in relation to the rule is set out in Schedule 2.

[DangerMice]

And the AA's take on it, calling us all dirty filthy liars..

http://www.aa.co.nz/assets/about/eve...28-02-2006.pdf

Proposal 19
The AA supported the proposal to introduce the dedicated moped licence (or Class 6 requirement) for moped riders in our submission on the Safer Journeys strategy. We consider that relatively inexperienced moped riders who only have a Class 1 (be it L, R or F) licence do not have sufficient competency to handle a powered-two-wheeler, or understand the different hazard perception skills required for using such a vehicle in the shared road space, and that this is contributing to moped accidents. We endorse this proposal on evidence in the Rule overview that specific moped licensing and testing will reduce moped accidents by up to 13%.

For similar reasons outlined in Proposal 16, many mopeds, despite meeting the definition of a moped, are in fact capable of higher speeds and may be ridden as such. Indeed, we suspect many scooters that meet the definition of a motorcycle are incorrectly registered as a moped and illegally ridden by someone on a Class 1 licence, and so this proposal will also ensure that, regardless of vehicle compliance, the rider has the appropriate skills to handle a powered-twowheeler.

Nevertheless, we recognise this proposal may be unpopular with many moped riders who do not have a Class 6 licence, particularly those who have been riding for some time and have gained the appropriate skills. This will impose costs on them which may not be justified in terms of safety benefits for those people. The NZTA should consider some way of accommodating and transitioning these experienced riders.

We are also concerned that these proposals, in conjunction with increasing licensing costs for young drivers, a rise in the minimum Learner licence age, and higher ACC levies, are all contributing to higher mobility costs for young people which could lead to an increase in unlicensed drivers or riders and vehicle non-compliance. We would be interested to understand any modelling and cost:benefit analysis that has been undertaken to measure these negative factors.

The proposed Class 6M licence will need to be managed carefully to ensure the BHST is widely available throughout NZ and at minimum cost to address these issues.

However, the AA does support the three year transitional period to give people time to obtain the minimum Class 6M licence.

We also recognise that users of pedal-powered mopeds that are in effect bicycles with a supplementary motor (the original definition of a moped) will also be required to obtain a Class 6M licence. Give these mopeds are more akin to bicycles than scooters, and that bicyclists need no licence, we suggest it may be equitable to consider exempting users of such pedalpowered vehicles from obtaining a moped licence. Therefore we suggest the definition of a moped be reviewed to distinguish between a scooter with a power output up to 2kW and maximum speed of 50km/h and a pedal-powered bicycle.

[Jamesnicholasnz]

So with this new 6M coming in. You don't have to be 16 years of age to apply for it, you only need to be 15. As the new age for car drivers is 16. And it is quite alot to read so next year when I'm 16 I can get a 6L or can I go for it now seeing I've got the 1L. SO WHAT SHOULD I DO ABOUT WANTING TO GET THE SCOOTER WITHEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA OR NOT?
Thanks for the law thing you sent me I was trying to find something like that but couldn't seem to find one.
Cheers James

[DangerMice]

Get the scoot, have a blast riding it on your 1L. You'll have 3 years to sort out the 6 license.

Get a Jog and some good riding gear

[Jamesnicholasnz]

Get the scoot, have a blast riding it on your 1L. You'll have 3 years to sort out the 6 license.

Get a Jog and some good riding gear

Cheers Mate. I think that's what I might do. Thanks for all the help. And I'll def go with the Yamaha. Thanks man, James

[Spearfish]

I have to laugh at the AA who think weaving around some cones in a deserted car park at 20kph will suddenly empower a new rider with all the skills they need to avoid contributing to the crash statistics especially someone new to any form of transport let alone two wheeled.
Rider handling is just an integral part of road-craft.


By weaving around cones I don't mean the advanced skill training like a NASS night or the equivalent meets around the country.