Dumb drivers who don't know the road rules

[sinfull]

That is correct.

The worst widespread issue is the amount of fuckwits who indicate right when going straight over roundabouts, I can not believe the amount of clueless who do this.

But it's LAW ! And i don't break the law ! Stupid stupid laws, it works on the large R/abouts as has been said, but they are few and far between around here !
But i guess it does make me hesitate apon entering the R/about, if the vehical entering from the other side has his/her right indicator on . Envokes a little internal road rage when he/she then goes straight ahead but better that than being clobbered aye
What really grates me is as P/B originally posted, Stupid, stupid drivers who don't know the rules or engagement (when i can't just shoot past the idiots)!

[Spearfish]

I found this-- http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...undabouts.html

and this http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/loca...bouts/3670296/

but what is the universal bike signal for a right turn?

Right had straight out, left hand crossed chest to right hands normal throttle position, tweak the throttle, complete turn, return hands to correct positions, wave apologies the Princessbandit ....perhaps I should just get bigger fuses

[pzkpfw]

Obviously [you're] not well versed in the law

Prove it and I'll give $50 to the charity of your choice.

[Berries]

But it's LAW ! And i don't break the law ! Stupid stupid laws, it works on the large R/abouts as has been said, but they are few and far between around here !

Road User Rule

A driver entering a roundabout—

(a) who intends to leave at the first exit after entering the roundabout, must signal a left turn before entering:

(b) who intends to leave more than half-way around the roundabout, must signal a right turn before entering:

(c) who intends to leave half-way around the roundabout must not signal when entering the roundabout for fear of being labelled a twat.

But seriously, half way down this page it is quite clear - How to drive

An epic thread in the making... Nobody has invoked the Godwin law yet and the normal KB confusion about "loose" Vs "lose" has not >>>happend? <<<

And nobody is pointing out spelling mistakes either.

[willytheekid]

PFFFT!

Roundabouts are easy!...I just hang on REALLY tight!

[Spearfish]

PFFFT!

Roundabouts are easy!...I just hang on REALLY tight!

Now you've done it....

[Scuba_Steve]

Prove it and I'll give $50 to the charity of your choice.

well thats not exactly an easy challenge, but hey if ya want I do got a question.
You can keep your money tho I'm a bit suspicious of charities usage of donations, unless you really want to give it away in which case go with RSPCA

But heres the question
Yellow lines (all of them), what are the rules (not NZTA summary, legislation ver).

I still haven't found proper law surrounding them only NZTA summary & peoples "wife-tales". So if you can produce it your doing better than I, if not you can keep ya moneys anyways. I'm not expecting you to know this any better than I.

[george formby]

Pfffft. It's obvious to me on my daily travels that indicators are optional or should only be used once the maneuver has started, mid turn or lane change etc. Either one will do depending on whether it's a japper or European car or BMW motorcycle, the side the stalk is on or how many buttons you have.
The horn is to attract your friends attention as you go past & wave & a courtesy flash is what happens when you look for the indicators or windscreen wipers.
Under no circumstances should you give your intentions away to other road users.

My current pet peeve is the slow vehicle bay at the end of my street, 70kmh posted limit & used by EVERYBODY as a passing lane including the local constabules. I often see cars ( & bikes ) coming up to the blind cross roads at the top of the hill doing well in excess of 100kmh overtaking some body who has moved into the left lane & traveling at least at the speed limit. Gonna be a huge bang one day.

[pzkpfw]

well thats not exactly an easy challenge, but hey if ya want I do got a question.
You can keep your money tho I'm a bit suspicious of charities usage of donations, unless you really want to give it away in which case go with RSPCA

But heres the question
Yellow lines (all of them), what are the rules (not NZTA summary, legislation ver).

I still haven't found proper law surrounding them only NZTA summary & peoples "wife-tales". So if you can produce it your doing better than I, if not you can keep ya moneys anyways. I'm not expecting you to know this any better than I.

Eh? The topic is "indicating at roundabouts", and your assertion it can't be done legally.

(I have a suspicion of what your claim will amount to, but I'll let you write it. Take your time; more than three seconds, even.)

[Scuba_Steve]

Eh? The topic is "indicating at roundabouts", and your assertion it can't be done legally.

(I have a suspicion of what your claim will amount to, but I'll let you write it. Take your time; more than three seconds, even.)

yes, yes touché I haven't actually looked at that law since it was released just went back & looked at it then I see what your getting at. Still doesn't stop it from being a stupid law which in affect achieves nothing especially not that which it was meant to achieve. But I also see we don't have to indicate out of smaller roundabouts either so I guess thats something.

Oh & technically the topic started with pulling into a 2-lane street but has somehow moved onto roundabouts (at-least thats where our discussions have gone)

[pzkpfw]

All good. We obviously won't convince each other - so best just leave it there; get on our bikes and ride. (Except I'm at work, dammit.)

[Banditbandit]

Pfffft. It's obvious to me on my daily travels that indicators are optional or should only be used once the maneuver has started, mid turn or lane change etc.

Yeah. I watch the body language of the car and driver far more than I rely on indicators

[Trudes]

Just hedge your bets and chuck your hazard lights on, fuck it, I have no idea where I'm going and could go anywhere!

[sinfull]

How to drive

Sweeet, so i'd be quite within my rights to let a little road rage spill out onto the tarmat !

pffft how good is that aye, i never bothered looking, if i was going straight through i wouldn't touch an indicator !

Ya seem to be good at digging shit up Berries, so where did this confusion stem from ?
I had heard (second hand, opps my mistake) that a new roundabout rule had been brought in (as above). Was it just a proposed change which got blown out of all proportions in the Intranet winds ?

[onearmedbandit]

Last night I went twice through a crossroad intersection here in manure-wa (heading to my destination then back home again) and both times I had people turning (from Maich into Halsey Rd for those who know the area) waiting for me as I sat at a Give Way.

I realise that they were both probably thinking of the give-way-to-everything-on-your-right business, but they seemed oblivious to the fact that it is actually a controlled intersection. I was on the controlled Give Way, leaving them free to turn yet they sat there looking at me as if wondering why I wasn't moving.

Wtf is with people driving big metal machines on our roads who don't even have any understanding of the rules governing something so important as who has right of way? Sure, they well may have thought "better to be safe than sorry, and wait" but if they don't know this, what else are they ignorant about???

I agree that the standard of driving in NZ is poor, but I'd wager a years income that we all are guilty of ignorance of certain road rules and/or making mistakes. Not excusing it by any means.