Fucking looters and yobbos and rent-a-mob in London

[Woodman]

The local London councils should fund a "rioting park" so the angry youths can go and smash shit and practice rioting techniques in a safe and controlled environment.

[mashman]

I can't see this kind of thing happening in NZ, basically because of the gun laws.

Aye, because a gun is going to stop 20 or 30+ people setting your house on fire

To look at it another way: could the same thing happen in Auckland, Wellington or Christchurch? Or Sydney, Melbourne or Perth? I don't think so, and not because they are that much smaller, but because the culture is different. So you have to ask: why is the culture is so fucked over there and not here? London is supposedly one of the world's "pin-up" cities in a supposedly egalitarian society. So WHY are these riots occurring?

Whatever way you look at it: yobs and thugs or a genuinely frustrated underclass SOME COMBINATION OF THINGS has created the situation. Either put things in place to stop creating yobs and thugs or reduce the frustration. Stamping out the current unrest and doing nothing else is treating the symptom, not the disease.

I mean, if you had repeated major breakdowns with your bike, say it kept holing pistons, you'd do more than just keep replacing pistons would you? You'd be investigating all sorts of things: piston manufacture, air/fuel ratio, ignition timing, fuel quality etc etc. All the people who think just shooting the yobs and going back to normal business are effectively advocating just keep changing the piston, there is no other problem. Surely looking at why the piston keeps failing is the better option?

Remove Adults from power and remove money from the face of the planet and you'll have a decent start point. I completely agree that the kids have gone apeshit for no reason other than they suddenly found something that they could profit from (why else you do steal things?)... but it's the Adults that are responsible for society, not the kids (as mentioned elsewhere, this relects on "us" and how we live life)... Primarily because we HAVE to work. Once upon a time 1 salary was enough.

Add another 61 million more people to the population of NZ (to match the UK's population), tis about the same land size etc... and this place would erupt like Etna... culture means feck all to those who don't have any.

[Paul in NZ]

There was some quite good commentary on close up last night.

Some tosser ex social worker from the area who was a fuckin knob end and had no real insite other than saying it all started when this guy was shot and there needs to be answers about that... (I'd say it had fuck all to do with that and the guy was a baddie with a gun ffs, what was he expecting?)

Then a kiwi sociologist / scientist chick who spent years studying this shit all over europe. One factor is the density of youth in these areas. Sooo many angry young men and nothing else.

Ah - here, sensible stuff....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5426...s-bad-academic


Governments need to back the bus up. Stop out sourcing everything off shore and find jobs and apprenticeships for these louts.

[Deano]

Aye, because a gun is going to stop 20 or 30+ people setting your house on fire

Would you be the first rioter in line ?

[Fatt Max]

...some say ''one thing kiwis are good at is playing rugby''....well clearly that is not completely true because I am not.

Yes, but you are a great snog mate, I know....

[Woodman]

Well if you want to be racist look at this way. If you hadn't let them in you'd be listening to the news on the bongo drums.

Yes ,must thank them for bringing modern society here. Its going just great.

[Paul in NZ]

The local London councils should fund a "rioting park" so the angry youths can go and smash shit and practice rioting techniques in a safe and controlled environment.

Cor - should run a course on it eh? I wonder if I could do an adult apprenticeship on it? I'm a bit weak on knife technique but do a loverly insult...

[Usarka]

A mate of mine in London had great dreams of opening such a facility.

I might remind him of his idea, it could get some government funding.

[Scoobydoo]

Aye, because a gun is going to stop 20 or 30+ people setting your house on fire

Stop it, youre getting me all excited now........

[martybabe]

Reporter: "why are you looting?"
Looter: "we're making a stand against the police trying to control our lives!"
Reporter: "is that an excuse to loot?"
Looter:"No, but right, it's just a way for us to make money innit, but all those stuck up people don't get it, yeh?"

[mashman]

Would you be the first rioter in line ?

Putting myself in their shoes (mob mentality and all)? Why not. I'll just send the other half around the back and start burning the place to the ground. I certainly wouldn't underestimate the abilities of the snot dribblers... armed or not. They're young, not (classically) stupid imho.

Stop it, youre getting me all excited now........

It's even got my name on it . I still wouldn't fancy my odds. (that's a serious piece of kit)

Reporter: "why are you looting?"
Looter: "we're making a stand against the police trying to control our lives!"
Reporter: "is that an excuse to loot?"
Looter:"No, but right, it's just a way for us to make money innit, but all those stuck up people don't get it, yeh?"

That sounds just about right to me... innit.

As a semi-joke... get the footballers, that won't be playing this weekend, to deliver Pizza to the ground between cops and kids and go from there...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Aye, because a gun is going to stop 20 or 30+ people setting your house on fire



Remove Adults from power and remove money from the face of the planet and you'll have a decent start point. I completely agree that the kids have gone apeshit for no reason other than they suddenly found something that they could profit from (why else you do steal things?)... but it's the Adults that are responsible for society, not the kids (as mentioned elsewhere, this relects on "us" and how we live life)... Primarily because we HAVE to work. Once upon a time 1 salary was enough.

Add another 61 million more people to the population of NZ (to match the UK's population), tis about the same land size etc... and this place would erupt like Etna... culture means feck all to those who don't have any.

this gun would, while you had ammunition for it.

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[Indiana_Jones]

Meanwhile back home in Tiverton...



Rioting?......or too much scrumpy?

-Indy

[Maha]

Yes, but you are a great snog mate, I know....

Well there is that...do you think can get that plasma tv back here ok?

[mashman]

this gun would, while you had ammunition for it.

heh... that it might if they were coming in through your front door... but wether a minigun or a biggun, it won't stop them from sliding in behind you.