Collected some revenue today

[Brian d marge]

mate.....have NO problem with you collecting revenue ...I support you 100℅ .....I do however have a massive problem with ....4 km over on an empty straight road .....

you can either justify it or toe the gubber mentioned line

Stephen

[nadroj]

When a biker straight lines some twisties: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ll-wrong-today

[oldrider]

mate.....have NO problem with you collecting revenue ...I support you 100℅ .....I do however have a massive problem with ....4 km over on an empty straight road .....

you can either justify it or toe the gubber mentioned line

Stephen

+1 ..... No make that +10!

[Berries]

When a biker straight lines some twisties: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ll-wrong-today

Shouldn't that be when a biker straight lines some twisties at high speed without being able to see that the road ahead is clear?

Or did I miss something?

[rastuscat]

Bikes sure can overtake easily, quickly and safely. But you'll probably exceed the speed limit in doing so. Is that OK?

You'd be surprised at how many Popos allow people to exceed the tolerance when overtaking, just because it's common sense. Having said that, if you have to do 120 to get past someone, you probably didn't need to overtake.

Remember though, that the speed limit is the speed limit, so if you get caught and get ticketed, it's a legal ticket. There are Popos who write tickets to the letter of the law. Doing what I do, it's fair to say that most don't, but some do.

[Jack Miller]

You'd be surprised at how many Popos allow people to exceed the tolerance when overtaking, just because it's common sense. Having said that, if you have to do 120 to get past someone, you probably didn't need to overtake.

Unless the person you're overtaking speeds up, which most do (intentionally or not.)

[MSTRS:Me]

Nah, I think it is a crock. If you have a nice open curve where you have more than 100m clear visibility then you can legally move out of your lane to overtake another vehicle, yet if there is no vehicle ahead of you and you cross the same centre line you can get fined?

On corners where you don't have sufficient visibility then sure, throw the fuckers in jail. But to assume that just because someone cuts a corner where there is plenty of visibility they will cut a corner where there is zero visibility is a bit much IMHO.

Sounds OK in theory. The reality is that if one isn't passing another vehicle or perhaps avoiding something on the road, then the law says one must stay in one's lane. Make a habit of straight-lining open corners, and it's only a matter of time before it creeps into happening in less forgiving corners.

[MSTRS:Me]

You'd be surprised at how many Popos allow people to exceed the tolerance when overtaking, just because it's common sense. Having said that, if you have to do 120 to get past someone, you probably didn't need to overtake.

Remember though, that the speed limit is the speed limit, so if you get caught and get ticketed, it's a legal ticket. There are Popos who write tickets to the letter of the law. Doing what I do, it's fair to say that most don't, but some do.

That's the old passing lane quandary.
"I've been stuck for 20kms behind this prat doing 80kph, and now there is room to finally overtake the prick has sped up to 110km. Shall I risk it?"

[Taz]

So that guy was over on the wrong side of the road even after the signs were put up? Did you ask them if they saw the signs?

How about whether or not you look like a cat, meow?

What you can't see around the corner is that the sign is in the middle of his lane forcing him to swerve around it to get by. Police don't play by fair rules ya know. It's entrapment.

[Shadows]

The driver of this one lectured us about revenue collecting, how unfair it was. Ho hum.

Yep. Bloody revenue collectors.

If you really cared about public safety on the roads then you should have done us all a favour and simply shot the whiney little fucker and pushed his vehicle over the bank.

[scumdog]

Make a habit of straight-lining open corners, and it's only a matter of time before it creeps into happening in less forgiving corners.

Very true, I posted on that before.

Nobody overtakes knowingly into the face of an oncoming vehicle that is using up its whole lane.

But somehow we have heaps of head-on crashes - SOMEBODY has to be on the wrong side of the road for that to happen - and I bet bugger-all thought "Ah, I can see that Nissan Patrol coming towards me but I'll overtake this camper-van anyway"

[Taz]

Bloody slow campervans. Ban them!

[slofox]

...if you have to do 120 to get past someone, you probably didn't need to overtake.

There are many times when I do just this. It's usually when overtaking truck and trailer units that are adhering to their legal limit of 90km/hr on roads that have limited overtaking opportunities - SH39 and SH23 being two local roads that spring to mind.

In general, these units build up a wolf pack behind them. And I am not happy in wolf packs - not on a bike. Cars creep up really close behind and put me at more risk than is necessary. So I feel safer getting by the truck and into clear space. I try to ride in clear space at all times.

So, if I were to hang on to 100km/hr to pass these units, I'd use more than the visible clear road ahead to get by. If I blast up to 120 for a couple of seconds, I am well clear with full visibility ahead and the knowledge that I am back on my side of the road and safe much sooner. Which seems to me what I should be doing. I don't like being on the other side of the road for any longer than I have to be.

Now I'm not talking screaming past a line of traffic at warp factor nine here. I'm talking about being briefly in breach of the speed limit even if it is by 20 or even 30 km/hr. And then getting back onto my side of the road and back down to legal speed with as much alacrity as possible.

If that is an offense then OK, it's the letter of the law. But I doubt that it is the spirit of the law. I'd rather be momentarily in breach of the letter of the law than permanently splattered up against an oncoming vehicle. Wouldn't you?

[rastuscat]

If that is an offense then OK, it's the letter of the law. But I doubt that it is the spirit of the law. I'd rather be momentarily in breach of the letter of the law than permanently splattered up against an oncoming vehicle. Wouldn't you?

I guess the point is that the only way to ensure no ticket is to keep witin the speed limit.

I know that that's a girlie swat thing to say, but it's fact. If you exceed the speed limit, you are relying on the discretion of the Popo who catches you. Maybe you'll get the benefit, maybe not. If you don't want to leave your fate to the mind of a Popo, stick to the limit, and you'll not have to worry.

This didn't start out as a post on speed, but it actually was. The reason said chap was straightening the corners out was that he was travelling quicker than his 4WD was able to take the bends properly at. Oddly, he had a radar detector. Coincidence? I think not. His choice of speed was more important to him than staying on his own side of the road.

Some people cut corners because they are lazy drivers, some incompetent. Some because they are going a bit quick in the twisties to take the corners while staying on their own side of the road.

[Number One]

My personal favourite is two more and I get a free toaster

YOu just made my blood run cold with that statement....is this an embedded fav saying amongst NZ Police?

I ask because the lead investigator we had to deal with recently used exactly the same phrase when askling us to confirm that we did want to push ahead and with getting my father spoken to/charged for messing with my son. This 'used car salesman styled investigator' told us..."It's not like a get a free toaster for everyone of these guys I put behind bars"

Seriously the way he said made us think firstly - this ain't a fucking joke for us ya know and Secondly - he probably bloody does get a free toaster!

Anyway that's off topic but I couldn't help asking.

Well done for getting the clown on the wrong side of the bloody road...the number of times I've seen this kind of shit driving and there isn't a man in blue around to nick them it's nice to know that now and then they DO get busted.