Police killing us again!

[scumdog]

Maybe you should have taken his rego and put in a complaint.
Too many cowboys in cop cars..

Yee-haw!

[gwigs]

Shrek,small truck or bike glad you were prepared for the worst and came off Scott free with No Damage, pity the same could not be said for Mr Plod! It hurts to see/hear of so many near misses with these guys, I've had em too spidey cuts in and you let em go but if it was a civy you'd be right up their nostrils pulling the big black ones with glee.
'They've got to develop a policy and stick to it.
Gwiggs, couldn't agree more it is time.A bit of balance though, I've seen some bloody awful driving displays from some Police officers of the later generations. I've also seen some damn fine examples of offensive driving to catch a real nasty bastard, we've all got to remember that pound for pound our front line guys and girls do a damn fine job on the whole.

You,re right of course its not all the boys in blue..
For the most part they are doing a fine job and we should appreciate them.

[Gearup]

Actually I never been a member of MAG
Casseye and me go back way further than that............
Remember the 81 riots Cass?
I still got that dent in my head.....................

You were probably on the protest ride up Queen Street in '78 then. Slowest trip on a bike I've ever had. The only thing dented though was my pride when the bike overheated a bit.

[crshbndct]

Going back to the Buller incident....
The cop there did a 3-point turn in an equally stupid place, also within 150m or less of a roadside turn-around area and his action caused 2 bikes to hit his car. Those bikes were also believed to have been speeding, but there was no proof of that in exact terms. That cop was eventually pinged for a dangerous manoeuvre and ordered to pay $30,000 to each rider (if I remember right).
The point is, the parallels between the 2 cases almost exactly line-up. So why, oh why, was the Te Kawhata cop only fined $250??

becasue the guy who dies is not still alive - the other guy had to pay big money to the bikers because they were alive to pursue it further if they didnt get a fair ruling. but the other guy is dead, so "hell fuck it, just make him pay court costs and be done with it" noone to pay

[scumdog]

becasue the guy who dies is not still alive - the other guy had to pay big money to the bikers because they were alive to pursue it further if they didnt get a fair ruling. but the other guy is dead, so "hell fuck it, just make him pay court costs and be done with it" noone to pay

[crshbndct]

The crash investigator concluded: “Calculations show any speed above 101 km/h may have been too fast for Mr Brown to stop his vehicle within the
distance between first viewpoint and impact area.”

dont tell me, seriously, that ALL of you slow down to 30kmh whenever you see a blind rise.

and to those who blame the ute driver, you really should be blaming either adam for fucking eve, and giving birth to the human race, or (depending on your belief) the fish which crawled out of the primordial soup and evolved into the human race..

if this hadnt happened, the rider would still be alive.
hell, blame the big bang.

[scumdog]

dont tell me, seriously, that ALL of you slow down to 30kmh whenever you see a blind rise.

and to those who blame the ute driver, you really should be blaming either adam for fucking eve, and giving birth to the human race, or (depending on your belief) the fish which crawled out of the primordial soup and evolved into the human race..

if this hadnt happened, the rider would still be alive.
hell, blame the big bang.

Smoothly put...

[Kickaha]

dont tell me, seriously, that ALL of you slow down to 30kmh whenever you see a blind rise.

You mean you dont?

[swbarnett]

you really should be blaming either adam for fucking eve, and giving birth to the human race, or (depending on your belief) the fish which crawled out of the primordial soup and evolved into the human race..

if this hadnt happened, the rider would still be alive.
hell, blame the big bang.

Well, actually, no. No Adam, Eve or Fish and the rider would never have existed in the first place. Come to think of it we wouldn't be here to debate the point either.

[trustme]

and to those who blame the ute driver, you really should be blaming either adam for fucking eve, and giving birth to the human race, or (depending on your belief) the fish which crawled out of the primordial soup and evolved into the human race..

if this hadnt happened, the rider would still be alive.
hell, blame the big bang.

Two blokes who habitually ride/drive together at high speed . They did not call themselves ' The Coro Demons ' for nothing . When asked about the coppers, the answer was no copper could catch them. Paul found out they can in the worst way possible.
A close friend had been telling me about these guys for probably 12/18 months.
I won't bore you with all the tales
My response was always that sooner or later , no matter how good a rider you are , at those speeds sooner or later either you or some one else will make a mistake & someone dies.
You really think there is no link, take a minute , think again, learn a good lesson.
I'd like to think people other than the cops learn from this mess.
I'm probably wrong on both counts.

[_Shrek_]

Maybe you should have taken his rego and put in a complaint.
Too many cowboys in cop cars..

am making apointment to see the super, will ruther do it this way, it's like when they have let me off on more than one occasion, would prefer it done this way 1st

[Dodgy_Matt]

You really think there is no link, take a minute , think again, learn a good lesson.
I'd like to think people other than the cops learn from this mess.
I'm probably wrong on both counts.

Only because there are people who still believe it won’t happen to them because they are better than that.

[Zedder]

Only because there are people who still believe it won’t happen to them because they are better than that.

This whole saga is bloody sad and also frustrating but I'm reminded of a Ex RNZAF instructor who told me that he's lived by and teaches the maxim that "There's old pilots and there's bold pilots but there's no old bold pilots."

It can be applied to anything where the risk of a disasterous result is present.

[swbarnett]

at those speeds sooner or later either you or some one else will make a mistake & someone dies.

The speed is never the issue, it's the time and place.

[trustme]

The speed is never the issue, it's the time and place.

I used to agree, but I now realise that with many motorcyclists you are dealing with the lowest common denominator. They can not recognise the right time & place even if it bites them om the arse , & very often it does.