Collected some revenue today

[oldrider]

The roadside signs say "Share the road"! (showing stick sketch of cyclists with cage)

Well, sure but why not "share the ACC as well then"!? ..

[FJRider]

That still doesn't make it the cyclists fault

But he has more rights than a cyclist ... to use the road ... right ... ???

[Jantar]

Well Jantar, you've never actually been to Northland have you? People never follow until theres clear road, and there are plenty of roads narrower than 4.5m!!

Northland? Where's that?

[Kickaha]

Northland? Where's that?

Sounds like it's where the narrowest roads and crappiest drivers are

[FJRider]

Northland? Where's that?

Somewhere near Taupo ... ????

[Mad-V2]

The standard road width on most N.Z roads is 3.5m with a minimum width on two laned roads of 3m. That goes for all state highways aswell.
If a cyclist wants training he can go to the gym, racetrack or use the many cycle lanes we have all payed for.
Just the same as if we want to go fast on our motorcycles, we have to go to a track at our own expense.
If we want to drive to work, home or anywhere else for that matter we have to use the road. We pay to use that road (through our teeth) and cyclists don't, maybe for their cars they do but not for their pedley bike.
If cyclists want to use the road they should have flashing lights and a pilot vehicle following on behind to warn traffic like every other slow moving vehicle on the road that pays to use it.
Cyclist are a menace on our roads and should be banned!!! BANNED I SAY!!!!!
And here you all are crying about slow drivers being dangerous on our roads
Also ACC pays them out if they have an accident when all they're wearing is their shitty cycle gear for protection. I've seen some going over 70kph down hills Squids?
Would I be pulled over and ticketed for going 30kph on my motorcycle on SH1? Yes I fucken well would

[Jantar]

The standard road width on most N.Z roads is 3.5m with a minimum width on two laned roads of 3m. That goes for all state highways aswell....

Have a look at http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...ocs/rts-15.pdf

It is 3.25 m PLUS 1.2 m allowance for cyclists, making 4.45 m. Ok so I was out by 5 cm. Where no allowance is made for cyclists it is 3.25 m for the marked lane PLUS 0.5 m clearway giving 3.75 m.

[Mad-V2]

I'm talking about the driving lanes, where 99% of cyclists travel. Not the side of the road
Also those guidelines are mostly urban and utilise a cycle lane.
The actual lane width of most roads from the centre of the centreline, to the centre of the edgeline is 3.5m or a minimum of 3m
Check it with a tape measure next time your out and about.
I have painted most of the roads in almost every district in the country over the last 14 years, including the urban ares.

[Berries]

Have a look at http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...ocs/rts-15.pdf

It is 3.25 m PLUS 1.2 m allowance for cyclists, making 4.45 m. Ok so I was out by 5 cm. Where no allowance is made for cyclists it is 3.25 m for the marked lane PLUS 0.5 m clearway giving 3.75 m.

Nah, those widths are through pinch points, like when you leave Alex for Clyde. In general they will try to get a 3.5m lane width or wider and then leave whatever is left as a shoulder between the edge line and edge of seal. Where cyclists position themselves is related to the total seal width - narrow road and they will be in the lane, wide road you'd expect them to be the other side of the edge line. But then that is where all the crap is as well which is why they get in the lane and piss people off.

[pritch]

Ignoring the cycling hijack...

I used to routinely straightline bends but Nick Ienatch is adamant in his book that this is dangerous. Even to the extent that he advises not riding with people who do.

After reading his comments I thought about it and now try to stay on my own side of the road. Besides, seems a shame to come across a nice bend only to turn it into another straight.

[Kickaha]

I see pic three made it into the Saturday press with a paragraph or two about centre line crossers

[JMemonic]

I see pic three made it into the Saturday press with a paragraph or two about centre line crossers

Yeh then in the comments a load of whiners complaining about tourists being the culprits and how safe it as the road just wiggles.

Keep giving out the tickets and some might realise they are not the drivers they believe themselves to be.

[Gixxer peter]

Nah, I think it is a crock. If you have a nice open curve where you have more than 100m clear visibility then you can legally move out of your lane to overtake another vehicle, yet if there is no vehicle ahead of you and you cross the same centre line you can get fined?

On corners where you don't have sufficient visibility then sure, throw the fuckers in jail. But to assume that just because someone cuts a corner where there is plenty of visibility they will cut a corner where there is zero visibility is a bit much IMHO.

i have no problem with this as long as the driver has indicated, for3 seconds, his intention to cross the center line and has checked in his rear vision mirror and blind spot to make sure i am not coming up beside him on the busa, passing him legitamatly (speeling), this has happened a few times with large trucks as i pass, they cut the corner leaving no lane to get by.

[Swoop]

Some fuckwit in Wellington has now decided to have motorists leave them 1.5m of space to wobble around in, whilst putting ALL oncoming traffic in danger. Ban cyclists from our rural roads please!!!!!

There was a misprint. It is "give the lycra-clad-toss-pots 1.5mm".
When they pay ACC levies they are entitled to representation on the roads. Until then they can stay on the fucking footpaths.

[scumdog]

There was a misprint. It is "give the lycra-clad-toss-pots 1.5mm".
When they pay ACC levies they are entitled to representation on the roads. Until then they can stay on the fucking footpaths.

Just like them skiers and joggers and rugby players and ocean-going fishermen and off=raod racers and trail-bike riders and pissed pub-goers and...