Who will win the 2011 election?

**oldrider** · 8th September 2011, 16:25

Originally Posted by SPman

Left wing, right wing - still the same fucking bird!

True but when one wing gets too much longer than the other it tends to fly round and round in ever diminishing circles until it disappears up it's own arsehole!

The unfortunate part in all that is that it takes us "all" up there with it!

We just waste our time arguing about the rotation we want it to fly in!

Page 49 at last!

**Banditbandit** · 8th September 2011, 16:34

Originally Posted by oldrider

True but when one wing gets too much longer than the other it tends to fly round and round in ever diminishing circles until it disappears up it's own arsehole!

The unfortunate part in all that is that it takes us "all" up there with it!

We just waste our time arguing about the rotation we want it to fly in!

Page 49 at last!

That's why the left invented armed revolution .. hand me my Shotgun ... circling birds are easier to hit ..

**cowpoos** · 8th September 2011, 21:17

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

Don't you mean he was very good at gambling with other peoples money - oops that's what he is still doing , only now it's our money.

you don't understand currency trading....and what happens...maks you look silly really!

**shrub** · 9th September 2011, 08:38

Originally Posted by cowpoos

you don't understand currency trading....and what happens...maks you look silly really!

From reading your posts I doubt you do either. Currency trading is high risk and is essentially based around differing values of currency between the currencies which change constantly and it is analysing these changes and trading between the currencies to capitalise on them that makes the money. A forex trader expects a certain outcome, takes a position on that outcome happening and capitalises when it does. When I put a tenner on the ABs winning tonight I am expecting an outcome, take a position and will capitalise when it happens.

That's an overly simple description, and of course there is far more to it, but that is currency trading in a nutshell.

**Maha** · 9th September 2011, 09:12

I heard about this KB poll on 3News the last night...
National leading by a commanding 58% with who the fuck cares a close second on 33%.
Poll analysis experts believe the gap between the two will close dramatically closer to election day.

**Banditbandit** · 9th September 2011, 09:14

And I would add that currency trading is financial speculation on the supposed value of the symbolic medium of exchange ... that's total bullshit !!! And a parasitic activity - parasitic on the many economies using a symbolic medium of exchange.

It's a completely non-productive activity ... John Key added nothing to the economy in which he worked as a currency trader ...

**shrub** · 9th September 2011, 09:36

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

And I would add that currency trading is financial speculation on the supposed value of the symbolic medium of exchange ... that's total bullshit !!! And a parasitic activity - parasitic on the many economies using a symbolic medium of exchange.

It's a completely non-productive activity ... John Key added nothing to the economy in which he worked as a currency trader ...

Yep, completely parasitic. Johnny boy has all his millions, but he didn't add anything to the pot by making, creating or enhancing; he simply took as much as he could out.

**Ocean1** · 9th September 2011, 10:52

Originally Posted by shrub

Yep, completely parasitic. Johnny boy has all his millions, but he didn't add anything to the pot by making, creating or enhancing; he simply took as much as he could out.

I agree. Currency exchange fees, interest charged on lending... in fact anything that doesn't produce hard product. All parasitic.

**Banditbandit** · 9th September 2011, 10:56

So - there ya go - our country is lead by a parasitic wide boy !!!!

(Shit, I hope our Rugby team is not)

**Oscar** · 9th September 2011, 11:08

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

So - there ya go - our country is lead by a parasitic wide boy !!!!

(Shit, I hope our Rugby team is not)

So no doubt you would prefer an out of touch Academic like Clarke?
Name the last NZ Prime Minister who actually worked for a living before entering politics.

**Banditbandit** · 9th September 2011, 11:44

Originally Posted by Oscar

So no doubt you would prefer an out of touch Academic like Clarke?
Name the last NZ Prime Minister who actually worked for a living before entering politics.

Here's the PMs I've been aware of in my lifetime and their previous jobs ..

Walter Nash - was a company secretary until he established his own tailering company
Keith Holyoake - Farmer
Norm Kirk - Stationary engine driver
Bill Rowling - NZ Army
Rob Muldoon - Cost Accountant

David Lange - Lawyer
Geoffrey Palmer - Law lecturer

Mike Moore - Printer
Jim Bolger - Farmer
Jenny Shipley - teacher

Helen Clarke - (didn't she make politics her career?) Actually a junior lecturer

John Key - Parasitic currency trader

Geoffrey Palmer was the first of the PMs to come from the university sector .. Key may well have worked for a living - but in a non-productive sector .. Jenny Shipley certainly worked for a living before marrying her Burton ... then entering politics ... Helen Clarke certainly worked for a living (you still have to pay bills even if you are a radical) unless tyou consider working in a university is not working for a living ..

I'd probably say that the answer to the spirit of your question rather than a very literal answer is Jenny Shipley ...

**Oscar** · 9th September 2011, 11:48

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Here's the PMs I've been awae of in my lifetime and their previous jobs ..

Walter Nash - was a company secretary until he established his own tailering company
Keith Holyoake - Farmer
Norm Kirk - Stationary engine driver
Bill Rowling - NZ Army
Rob Muldoon - Cost Accountant

David Lange - Lawyer
Geoffrey Palmer - Law lecturer

Mike Moore - Printer
Jim Bolger - Farmer
Jenny Shipley - teacher

Helen Clarke - (didn't she make politics her career?) Actually a junior lecturer

John Key - Parasitic currency trader

So the answer to your question is Jim Bolger !!!! Geoffrey Palmer was the first of the PMs to come from the university sector ..

You can say what you like about Key, but he's a shrewd operator.
Could you see anyone else on that list stitching together Tory / Maori / Act into a functioning unit? He also the most teflon coated politician I've ever seen - nowt sticks to him.

**shrub** · 9th September 2011, 13:17

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Helen Clarke - (didn't she make politics her career?) Actually a junior lecturer

Come on, you can't expect someone who has devoted their lives to learning everything they can about politics and who has worked in the field for decades to be a better politician than someone who until recently was a yuppie forex trader? It's much better that the country be run by wheeler dealers ticking off something in their bucket list than career politicians.

Especially if said forex trader has a great smile and a hot missus.