Ha! Take that Mr Smith!

[5150]

I think if Labour wanted to increase their votes at the next election, they would have done something to ease bikers pain. After all Mr Goff rides a Harley him self.

[Zedder]

Except they still stuck on the 18 times more likely stats crap they swallowed from dodgy Nick.

Well, it is owned by Fairfax Media after all......

[gijoe1313]

Not to worry, according to the way he thinks - all he has to do is raise the levies again to make up the shortfall!

And suddenly he realises he has a captive market of cyclists who can also have little rego plates on them!

[5150]

Yet the industry itself does little to help the bikers (their customers) by not standing up to mr Prick Smith. Atleast I haven't seen much 'public' action from them since the levies went up.

[Katman]

Except they still stuck on the 18 times more likely stats crap they swallowed from dodgy Nick.

Would you prefer they use the one where we make up only 2% of the road going fleet but are involved in 10% of all accidents instead?

[cs363]

All is see happening is them rising the rates to make up for the new shortfall.....
-Indy

Yep.....

[bogan]

Would you prefer they use the one where we make up only 2% of the road going fleet but are involved in 10% of all accidents?

Yes, using unbiased stats is more likely to get bikers to ask 'why it is so bad?' rather than just the 'fuck you, you lying pricks' response they get now.

[Eyegasm]

Ha, just got a job with ACC. paying me 16k a year more than my previous employer.

Now ACC can pay the rego themselves (sort of) and buy me a new bike!

[nodrog:Me]

Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

[Katman]

I always said that the only way not paying your rego was ever going to achieve anything is if we all did it 'en masse'. That would have made a statement and created a massive headache for them at the same time.

Instead, we've just made it easier for them to justify the next increase.

[nodrog:Me]

Instead, we've just made it easier for them to justify the next increase.

Sweet, so ill be saving even more money next year.

[Katman]

Yes, using unbiased stats is more likely to get bikers to ask 'why it is so bad?' rather than just the 'fuck you, you lying pricks' response they get now.

I hate to burst your bubble but the 2%/10% figures might just be where they arrived at their 18x figure from.

[tbs]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...kes-should-pay

sigh.....

[oneofsix]

I always said that the only way not paying your rego was ever going to achieve anything is if we all did it 'en masse'. That would have made a statement and created a massive headache for them at the same time.

Instead, we've just made it easier for them to justify the next increase.

brilliant use of propaganda and apathy by the government. We know the propaganda is BS but are too apathetic so they get away with it. Even to the point where they create division within their opposition, you could even be forgiven for believing Katman is arguing against himself.

Would you prefer they use the one where we make up only 2% of the road going fleet but are involved in 10% of all accidents?

[bogan]

I hate to burst your bubble but the 2%/10% figures might just be where they arrived at their 18x figure from.

Surely 2/10% would be 5x or very close to it? Which I think those number have been rounded anyway, as the direct rego/incident number we used give roughly 3-4x.

18 comes form adding bullshit distance travelled into it, bullshit cos we get scooters added to ours, and 'they' get trucks buses taxis etc on theirs.