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Forum whore
- you mean they'd all be self-centred, ego driven sociopaths with the aim of screwing as much from society as they can, at the expense of everyone else?One thing I guarantee, if they behaved like that 1% they’d get similar results.
I think you may have a different view from most protestors of who they consider the "1%" actually are.....
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Bogeyman
Of course, it's their consideration after all. But the majority aren't always right, and in this case they're more a lunatic fringe than a well considered majority opinion. And given they and you seem to have equated "wealthy" with "sociopath" for a specific group of people they nor you personally know I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt.Originally Posted by SPman
And this:
Sounds more like a dole bludger than anything else.
Unfortunately they number somewhat more than 1%.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Forum whore
Interesting - polls in the US show 2/3rds of people agree with the motives of the OWS movement, but, of course, the excesses of the rich have had even more impact there, than in NZ!But the majority aren't always right, and in this case they're more a lunatic fringe than a well considered majority opinion
Most people have no beef with "wealthy" people who have made a bundle through endeavour, hard work, good ideas or even a modicum of luck. That's healthy, commendable. It'd be great to see Quasi, R T and all the others on here get some just rewards for their hard work and effort. But, when they (the VERY wealthy) cross the threshold into graft, corruption, deceit and arrogance and consider it their god given "right" to cheat, lie and obfuscate to achieve their aims, most reasonable people would call enough! I find it amusing that many people on this site, and elsewhere, sympathise with the ideals of these sicko fucks, seeming to consider that by agreeing with and actively helping them, some of their wealth might "rub off" onto them, perhaps. Well - to paraphrase George Carlin "These guys have their own club - and none of us are invited, no matter how sychophantic some of us get!"
What people are pissed of with, concerned about is the increasing merging of Corporate Business and Money with politics and the media
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. - sounds familiar.......
Aaahhhh - you notice the similarity at both ends of the spectrum.....Sounds more like a dole bludger than anything else.
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Bogeyman
I suspect you'll find that the ratio of criminals is similar, in fact. It's just that, (as with most other endeavours) one group are simply more adept than the other.
The difference being you'd like to punish all the wealthy on the suspicion of criminal behaviour. The only reliable motive for which is an extraordinarily unattractive envy.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Just faidin away!
Just when the Green's were making inroads to normalcy the old guard rears it's ugly head .... and it all turns to shit once again!
Referencing the clandestine bill board mutilator brigade ..... oh and they still have Keith Lock and co lurking away in there too!
Watchful Old Bird
They haven't had an honestly elected MP since Jeanette from Green central, they just slide in on the protest party vote %.Just when the Green's were making inroads to normalcy the old guard rears it's ugly head .... and it all turns to shit once again!
Referencing the clandestine bill board mutilator brigade ..... oh and they still have Keith Lock and co lurking away in there too!
Liked the billboard mods though shows some original thinking.
Just faidin away!
Disenchanted Labour voters were just finding somewhere else to settle, where will they go to now?Sigh: there will need to be a lot of room there's a lot of them!
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
From the harold....
TOP QUOTE: The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money.
Curmudgeon
I see Peter Lange is calling on Green voters in Epsom to vote for the National Candidate
Brillant idea to get rid of ACT - why didn't Labour think of it?
dodgy is as dodgy does
So what you're saying is that the only honest way to get into parliament is to win the candidate vote? Do you also feel that if (say) 15% of NZ wants to support a party because they are not happy with National or Labour, those people have no right to be represented in parliament unless the party they support wins an electorate seat? Do they have less right to be represented in parliament than (say) Act supporters, even though less than 1% of the population support Act, but National "gave" Act Epsom?
Do 1% of the population have more right to be represented in parliament than 15%?
And what makes you think people who vote for the Greens are doing so as a protest vote? Could it be possible that people are making that voting decision because their policies are actually better than Labour or National's policies? Or that people want a different voice in the legislature to keep the big catch-all parties honest?
Don't blame me, I voted Green.
SH1 rider
Funny you say that, I was thinking much the same with regards to their roading policies for the Wellington Region. I can just imagine all the Wellington and South Island holiday makers heading up north on light railJust when the Green's were making inroads to normalcy the old guard rears it's ugly head .... and it all turns to shit once again!
Referencing the clandestine bill board mutilator brigade ..... oh and they still have Keith Lock and co lurking away in there too!It will be good for the transport industry as well.
Don't these idiots realise there is a major transport link between the main island relying on SH1?
As for the billboard guy at least that had humour.
Cup of tea and a "private" conversation in a public place anyone?
Forum whore
The ultra wealthy - yes. Getting them to pay some tax would be a start!
and no, not all of them indulge in criminal behaviour, but enough do that it's more than a worry.You REALLY don't get it, do you.The only reliable motive for which is an extraordinarily unattractive envy.
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Bogeyman
So penalising the wealthy is the primary concern, godit.
You think the "ultra wealthy" don't pay any tax, check.
Are thay managing this legally? If so wouldn't it be a better idea to make the rules favour a more worthy aproach to earning money? If not shouldn't you be more concerned with enforcing the law, rather than arbitrarily and punitively taxing a group that may or may not have done anything wrong?
Y'see, "enough do" being "more than a worry" isn't really a good enough reason to persecute them. No more than denying every beneficiary a benefit because "enough are" criminals to justify it.
Oh I think I've covered it.You REALLY don't get it, do you.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Sooo...a thread on the Election dissolves into "attack the rich pricks'...who knew??
Honestly I get tired of the simplistic attacks on nameless quiet New Zealanders who have achieved financial security. The rich. Who are these people? The alleged 1%ers who own all the wealth? Damned if I know.
I suppose I'm related to a few - farmers. Ok fair enough, but the bastards aren't spending it. In fact they look poorer than me judging by their cars and houses. True, once they are dead, there will be some big numbers but actual spending money...? Nadda.
So there must be 40,000 other rich pricks out there and we need to know their names and addresses. I'm googling envy cards right this minit....nek minit.....
Just faidin away!
Respect, trust and confidence in for National and international leaders is at such a low ebb that decention and civil disobedience are ripe for the picking!Sooo...a thread on the Election dissolves into "attack the rich pricks'...who knew??
Honestly I get tired of the simplistic attacks on nameless quiet New Zealanders who have achieved financial security. The rich. Who are these people? The alleged 1%ers who own all the wealth? Damned if I know.
I suppose I'm related to a few - farmers. Ok fair enough, but the bastards aren't spending it. In fact they look poorer than me judging by their cars and houses. True, once they are dead, there will be some big numbers but actual spending money...? Nadda.
So there must be 40,000 other rich pricks out there and we need to know their names and addresses. I'm googling envy cards right this minit....nek minit.....
Envy of the rich and successful is a simple catalyst and the loathing of the recent bailouts of the (1%) banking fraternity can be manipulated to whip up mob an emotional frenzy.
Like the 81 Springbok tour, the righteous are prepared to fight and die for a principal so are easy to manipulate.
Unlike the springbok tour this raising up against capitalism is world wide and IMHO is being driven by the very people it is aimed at!
Prepare for the disintegration of society as we now know it, those who need this least will provide the fuel to ignite it .... watch this space!
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