Is John Key the man to lead NZ?

[rainman]

How come all the self-proclaimed smart-cunts here on KB ain't running the country???

Beats me, several here could do a better job than the incumbent.

[FJRider]

How come all the self-proclaimed smart-cunts here on KB ain't running the country???

Plurry 'Monday-morning-quarter-backs' that's why.

Vote Skidmark for Prime Minister ...


Nah ... doesn't have the ring to it ...

[Hinny]

I wonder who came up with the idea to sell state assets.
It would appear it was someone who clearly is not working for the benefit of New Zealand.
On the figures given to the media these assets are returning around 17%.
Does that point escape most people?
Instead of selling assets like that, to my way of thinking, they should be borrowing money to buy more assets that can return 17%
If they are paying 4% for their money and making a 13% profit from the investment it would pay itself off in.....years? Can't find my financial calculator at the moment.
That would be the way to reduce debt.
Have these money making assets pay it off.
Simple.

They don't advocate selling off assets that aren't so profitable.
Demonstrate their oft quoted idea, that Private Enterprise can run businesses better than the government.
Why?... because it is an fallacious mantra.
In KB speak...it is Bullshit!

[Brian d marge]

thats a nice list, most which should be done now, but how would you pick your goverment or leaders?

Same way , cept they cant play with the toys ;
As Ive said many times , it aint the leader its the outside influences , where the leaders come into play, is when balls are needed to say NO to the Americans ...Internet piracy anyone ?
leaders can just be figure heads , as can parties , but the core assets and department should remain , independent and under a state ( people ) mandate

Jk can then do what the hell he likes , but health , education and infrastructure , are run by the men from the ministry , ( no not SOE , thats a tax dodge, ) more like an SOE , without CEOs , just the men from the ministry with transparent and open accounting with clear budgets

Stephen

[FJRider]

I wonder who came up with the idea to sell state assets.
It would appear it was someone who clearly is not working for the benefit of New Zealand.
On the figures given to the media these assets are returning around 17%.
Does that point escape most people?
Instead of selling assets like that, to my way of thinking, they should be borrowing money to buy more assets that can return 17%
If they are paying 4% for their money and making a 13% profit from the investment it would pay itself off in.....years? Can't find my financial calculator at the moment.
That would be the way to reduce debt.
Have these money making assets pay it off.
Simple.

They don't advocate selling off assets that aren't so profitable.
Demonstrate their oft quoted idea, that Private Enterprise can run businesses better than the government.
Why?... because it is an fallacious mantra.
In KB speak...it is Bullshit!

The same people that sell their Xmas presents on trademe. It didn't cost them anything personally ... and money in the pocket is good ... isn't it ... ???

Getting a mortgage to pay for Blue chip shares is never a good idea ... Borrowing money in the hope the market for the stuff you buy now will improve (even get a return from) in three years down the track.

The "I need money NOW' theory usually wins the vote ... especially if interest on the loans already in place ... are due ...

[Hinny]

Getting a mortgage to pay for Blue chip shares is never a good idea ...

But, and like Jenny's, it's a big but,

Irreplaceable, Strategic Assets are hardly in the same category as Blue Chip shares and, to be pedantic, the borrower gives a mortgage and the lender gets one.

Borrowing money to pay for a house and having the successful family business pay off the mortgage is a good idea.

So,

• since their sale idea is clearly not a sane business decision
• since they keep changing the reason for doing it

We can , I think, safely assume it is a dodgy deal.

As Winston Peters said... "It is a con job"

[Hinny]

That post really should be in "jokes and humour". sue badford??

As I stated earlier,

• John Key was talking her up before the 2nd to last election.
• Many political pundits of various persuasions talked her up before the 2nd to last election.
• She was a more effective MP in terms of bills introduced and accepted than John Key has been, and possibly anyone else, ever.

[FJRider]

But,
Borrowing money to pay for a house and having the successful family business pay off the mortgage is a good idea.

So,

• since their sale idea is clearly not a sane business decision
• since they keep changing the reason for doing it

We can , I think, safely assume it is a dodgy deal.

As Winston Peters said... "It is a con job"

The thing about successful business's ... success attracts those that think (can ... ???) do it cheaper ... even a few months at a loss (of business elsewhere) can be the business killer ...

Good idea's are just that. UNTILL proven good ... it's a gamble ... if it isn't proven good ... go to plan B.

Just make sure there IS a plan B ... (plan C comes later ...)

[Hinny]

You lost me.
Does that mean you agree or disagree with what Winston said?

[FJRider]

You lost me.
Does that mean you agree or disagree with what Winston said?

Think carefully ... Would Winnie lie to you ... ??? even if ... his political survival depended on it ... ???

[Hinny]

So, nothing of substance to offer.
Much like John Key I suppose.
He's lined up a lot to take tho'.

[SPman]

Beats me, several here could do a better job than the incumbent.

My cat could do a better job than the incumbent!

[scumdog]

Beats me, several here could do a better job than the incumbent.

I guess they think ranting on how they know the way the country SHOULD be run on KB qualifies them for that...????

Obviously they don't care enough to actually step into politics and run the country better.

Selfish bastards the lot of them.

[scumdog]

As I stated earlier,
[*]She was a more effective MP in terms of bills introduced and accepted than John Key has been, and possibly anyone else, ever.[/LIST]

Anti-smacking bill? (Tuis moment)

[Hinny]

Anti-smacking bill? (Tuis moment)

What could you possibly find funny in that?
Are you identifying yourself as one of the plonkers that thought reasonable force was a satisfactory defense for bashing children?