Ride safe. Bollox!

[Ocean1]

This is one of the reasons I believe that putting signs up that had 100 written on them rather than the old black diagonal stripe over the white circle was a backwards step.

My memory's not as good as it used to be, but I think that black diagonal stripe sign was a hangover from what used to be a Limited Speed Zone, which was subtley different to the (then) 60mph open road limit.

One of the local constabulary will leap in shortly and enlighten us further...

[vifferman]

It's not the 100/104 that I have a problem with.
It's how the logic and propaganda behind it go that irks me.

Eggs Zachary. I feel the same way.

[blue rider]

The number of Accidents in which humans are harmed and or killed, has decreased steadily between 2000 - 2010, however showed an increase of 2.4% in 2010 compared to 2009. For the previous nine year there was a decrease of about 28%,

Total people harmed on Autobahns in Germany in 2010 18.829.

http://www.dvr.de/betriebe_bg/daten/...istiken-ab.htm

however it should be taken into account that Germany is a traditional transit country with high amounts of truck transport and the always dreaded Russian/Polish convey, plus the vacationeers from the nordic countries.......don't you love them caravans.
Unfortunately the stats do not show where the injured/death come from, which would be interesting.


The translation was all mine.

[Scuba_Steve]

My memory's not as good as it used to be, but I think that black diagonal stripe sign was a hangover from what used to be a Limited Speed Zone, which was subtley different to the (then) 60mph open road limit.

One of the local constabulary will leap in shortly and enlighten us further...

I'm not the but limited speed zones were red 'LSZ' signs not the diagonal line. The diagonal black line is 'open road' effectively what we have now use '100' signs for, as they were just letting you know you were hitting the "open road" and

Unless there are specific speed signs, the speed limit is 100 km/h on all open roads, including motorways and expressways.

[blue rider]

and why is SH2 a now safe zone at 90 km ? Went to Tauranga over Xmas, and could not quite understand the logic behind this.
Also cops staring at you with some sort of gun thingy pointed at one is not polite. Not at all.

in fact the only dangerous thing i cam across was a police car pulling out (there were about 4 cars and me) to put on the horns (why?) and go real fast up to the second car and pull them over from the right line to the left to the border stripe (not sure the correct term) in a somewhat risky maneuver. Sort of like road bullying. Not polite and not safe.

[Scuba_Steve]

The number of Accidents in which humans are harmed and or killed, has decreased steadily between 2000 - 2010, however showed an increase of 2.4% in 2010 compared to 2009. For the previous nine year there was a decrease of about 28%,

I think what we're starting to now is the plateau, where the number of "safety enhanced" cages is such that this speed scam will no-longer be able to ride it's success.
I also think this is why we're starting to see moves towards making money with other laws i.e. slow drivers, crossing centerlines (which as people have previously noted the crazy with the yellow paint has been hard at work setting up), red light cams, cellphones etc

[blue rider]

I think what we're starting to now is the plateau, where the number of "safety enhanced" cages is such that this speed scam will no-longer be able to ride it's success.
I also think this is why we're starting to see moves towards making money with other laws i.e. slow drivers, crossing centerlines (which as people have previously noted the crazy with the yellow paint has been hard at work setting up), red light cams, cellphones etc

this is why i think a breakdown of the nationalities involved in these accidents would be interesting to see. you would not believe what they allow on the streets in the Eastern Countries, these cars smoke.....for real.
crappy overloaded cars with tired drivers, fucked breaks, no acceleration what so ever, did I say tired drivers? bada bing bada bing......no more brummmm brummm

[The Singing Chef]

I actually got quite pissed off at the new 90km/h "Safer speed zones" throught half of SH2 down to Tauranga. It actually made me want to speed so I took some back roads to keep myself occupied and forget about the "Safer speed zone"

[SPman]

It's really not that difficult to sit at 100kph. Why are you all in such a hurry?

That's on the Scorpio, right.

[Berries]

I'm not the but limited speed zones were red 'LSZ' signs not the diagonal line. The diagonal black line is 'open road' effectively what we have now use '100' signs for, as they were just letting you know you were hitting the "open road" and

What he said.

Although a (then) Transit initiative lots of Councils followed suit. Although the signs mean exactly the same thing, there is, I feel, a slight difference in the understanding of the two signs. Subtle nuance is the word I was looking for.

this is why i think a breakdown of the nationalities involved in these accidents would be interesting to see. you would not believe what they allow on the streets in the Eastern Countries, these cars smoke.....for real.
crappy overloaded cars with tired drivers, fucked breaks, no acceleration what so ever, did I say tired drivers?

But then in many countries, even those with slanty eyes or black people, the driver training is far beyond the absolute crap you have in NZ.

Is fucked breaks something to do with fatigue?

[jrandom]

That's on the Scorpio, right.

The Nightster's good like that too.

[blue rider]

What he said.

Although a (then) Transit initiative lots of Councils followed suit. Although the signs mean exactly the same thing, there is, I feel, a slight difference in the understanding of the two signs. Subtle nuance is the word I was looking for.


But then in many countries, even those with slanty eyes or black people, the driver training is far beyond the absolute crap you have in NZ.

Is fucked breaks something to do with fatigue?

if you are on a motorway going at a good 150 - 180 km - as does most around you you want to be neither tired nor have fucked breaks. This is regardless of your genetic make up and country of origin.

one of the really sick things to see is cars piled up by the twenties thirties etc., because a. drove to fast, b. drove tired, c. breaks did not work.

[MSTRS:Me]

My memory's not as good as it used to be, but I think that black diagonal stripe sign was a hangover from what used to be a Limited Speed Zone, which was subtley different to the (then) 60mph open road limit.

I, too, thought the diagonal black line meant one and the same with 'LSZ'.
As for what it meant (either one) - (and for the young'uns who don't know them) The speed limit was the prevailing open road limit of the day, but with the proviso that in adverse conditions, the limit would alter to 70kph. Removing, or rescinding, that proviso was one of the early steps in removing the need for drivers to actually think about what they were doing...

[Edbear]

I think what we're starting to now is the plateau, where the number of "safety enhanced" cages is such that this speed scam will no-longer be able to ride it's success.
I also think this is why we're starting to see moves towards making money with other laws i.e. slow drivers, crossing centerlines (which as people have previously noted the crazy with the yellow paint has been hard at work setting up), red light cams, cellphones etc

Money making? Aren't these kinda dangerous and cause accidents?

[Ocean1]

Removing, or rescinding, that proviso was one of the early steps in removing the need for drivers to actually think about what they were doing .

...the basic human right to self determination.