It's soooooo unfair (sniffle)

**rastuscat** · 21st January 2012, 09:02

Originally Posted by trustme

Truck driver gets pulled in at Stanley St. COF on trailer is about a week old. Number plate light is out & is ticketed for no tail lights . Goes to the guys superior & argues that his tail light are operating it is a number plate light. Told to get lost . Stopped 13 times over the next 2 days.

One CVIU area chief refers to truckies as the 'enemy'. As the CVIU bloke said, 'I'd rather have a beer with your average truckie than my workmates'

Lots more stories like that.

CVIU have no fathers the rest are OK

Yup. And I've gots lots of stories about truckies who have been total knobs to deal with. Maybe we should sit and compare stories some day, over a beer.

To be fair, 99% of truckies are just going about their business, trying to follow the rules, paying their mortgage, trying to do the right thing by their families. As are 99% of cops, CVIU included. It's the 1% that causes the grief.

To a large extent, the CVIU enforces rules the level playing field. Like, if 9 companies out of 10 are playing by the rules, but the other 1 is constantly getting jobs by undercutting the prices of the 9 (by wroughting the system), wouldn't the 9 want the 1 pirate rogered?

**Mogwa** · 21st January 2012, 09:09

To get a $200 ticket for something you have to pay one way or the other, is surely not legal.

I said the same thing to the officer at the checkpoint on sunday in an unconfrontational way when she pointed out my reg was out by 3 months... she turned the "blind eye" this time

. I now have Reg again and i have paid for those 3 months anyway so i dont see it as breaking the law just delaying the inevitable to suit my finances.

**trustme** · 21st January 2012, 09:09

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Yup. And I've gots lots of stories about truckies who have been total knobs to deal with. Maybe we should sit and compare stories some day, over a beer.

To be fair, 99% of truckies are just going about their business, trying to follow the rules, paying their mortgage, trying to do the right thing by their families. As are 99% of cops, CVIU included. It's the 1% that causes the grief.

To a large extent, the CVIU enforces rules the level playing field. Like, if 9 companies out of 10 are playing by the rules, but the other 1 is constantly getting jobs by undercutting the prices of the 9 (by wroughting the system), wouldn't the 9 want the 1 pirate rogered?

I'm in the 99% . Last CVIU ticket was probably 10/12 years ago, latest operator rating was as good as it gets. Everytime I am stopped I am treated like the 1%. It is the attitude that I hate, I don't get it from your normal cop.

**caspernz** · 21st January 2012, 09:11

Originally Posted by trustme

Truck driver gets pulled in at Stanley St. COF on trailer is about a week old. Number plate light is out & is ticketed for no tail lights . Goes to the guys superior & argues that his tail light are operating it is a number plate light. Told to get lost . Stopped 13 times over the next 2 days.

One CVIU area chief refers to truckies as the 'enemy'. As the CVIU bloke said, 'I'd rather have a beer with your average truckie than my workmates'

Lots more stories like that.

CVIU have no fathers the rest are OK

Mmmm, after 25 years in trucking I may almost be qualified to comment. There's always an element of 'enthusiastic enforcement' in any area of the Police force, but in my experience it's been mostly justified. Lots of slow learners in the trucking industry, just like bikers, try and buck the system and surprise surprise....the system bucks back. Starting off any encounter with law enforcement while you've got a chip on your shoulder is just counter productive.

I've got loads of anecdotes I can dish out. On the CB one night a driver was bitching about being robbed for going a little over the limit thru Hunterville on SH1. His definition of a little turned out to be about 35 over in a 50. Soooo unfair.....

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st January 2012, 09:12

Originally Posted by trustme

I'm in the 99% . Last CVIU ticket was probably 10/12 years ago, latest operator rating was as good as it gets. Everytime I am stopped I am treated like the 1%. It is the attitude that I hate, I don't get it from your normal cop.

Even worse, is the officious CVIU types that don't know the rules they are there to enforce...

**rastuscat** · 21st January 2012, 09:21

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Even worse, is the officious CVIU types that don't know the rules they are there to enforce...

..............and the KBers who quote the law as outlined by their mates cousins neighbour from Eketahuna.

**Scuba_Steve** · 21st January 2012, 09:26

Originally Posted by rastuscat

E.g. I encourage my guys and girls to stop any vehicle which has less than the required number of brake lights working. Like, a car with less than 3, when 3 are required. We stop them to tell the driver that they have a light out. If we didn't stop them and tell them, they wouldn't know. But we don't charge them $150 for the advice, like we could. Yeah, it's all about revenue collecting. You have no idea how easy it would be to collect ten times as much revenue as we do now, if we really wanted to. But it wouldn't contribute to road safety much.

Good boy

Originally Posted by rastuscat

One day there might be a pill we can put in the water that causes everyone to wear seatbelts, stops at stop signs, complies with traffic lights etc. But for the moment all we have is the system the gubbermint provides, so that's how we try to encourage compliance.

You tell me how wearing my seatbelt is going to save your life, his life, her life, or even my life (being in a van) maybee I'll consider wearing one. If NZTA only put stop signs where stop signs are needed there maybee more compliance (South Island ones might be ok? but North Island ones are atrocious, we have them where they should not be & none where they're somewhat needed). no argument about traffic lights.

**Scuba_Steve** · 21st January 2012, 09:28

Originally Posted by rastuscat

..............and the KBers who quote the law as outlined by their mates cousins neighbour from Eketahuna.

na broz it was my mates daughters second cousin & I knows it true, they puts it on teh interwebs thats where alls da true stuff is I knows cause teh interwebs told me. chur

**rastuscat** · 21st January 2012, 09:34

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

Good boy

You tell me how wearing my seatbelt is going to save your life, his life, her life, or even my life (being in a van) maybee I'll consider wearing one. If NZTA only put stop signs where stop signs are needed there maybee more compliance (South Island ones might be ok? but North Island ones are atrocious, we have them where they should not be & none where they're somewhat needed). no argument about traffic lights.

Wrote a paper once that asked the council to remove all traffic signs completely, and let the give way rules be the sole determinant. The control freaks insist that more signs is better then less signs. Sigh.

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st January 2012, 09:39

Originally Posted by rastuscat

..............and the KBers who quote the law as outlined by their mates cousins neighbour from Eketahuna.

No. Not like them at all.
Someone who does a job enforcing certain rules, should never get those rules wrong, should they?

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st January 2012, 09:41

Originally Posted by rastuscat

The control freaks insist that more signs is better then less signs.

It's the backhanders paid by the sign industry...

**rastuscat** · 21st January 2012, 09:47

Originally Posted by MSTRS

No. Not like them at all.
Someone who does a job enforcing certain rules, should never get those rules wrong, should they?

No, completely correct, they shouldn't. Only, they are human.

Maybe we should say that they should always try to be right, and accept it if they get it wrong.

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st January 2012, 10:01

Originally Posted by rastuscat

No, completely correct, they shouldn't. Only, they are human.

Maybe we should say that they should always try to be right, and accept it if they get it wrong.

Maybe we should. But why should we? It is their job to be right when they accuse a truckie (eg) of heinous crimes against humanity, not the truckie's job to correct the officer.

**scumdog** · 21st January 2012, 10:26

Originally Posted by Berg

What a load of horseshit. I could have issued thousands of dollars of tickets this week but chose to deal with many of them by way of warning or immediate complyance.

Sums me up - not a ticket issued by me this year - but plenty of warnings/advice.

Oh my, how am I going to live up to this revenue gathering reputation

Of course when I start work this afternoon there might be a change....I'll let you know if I hand out any 'driving tax' and then y'all can start bagging me again...