It's soooooo unfair (sniffle)

[Drew]

Notice it is the lawbreakers who are most vocal on their condemnation of the Law? The only time I have ever been "treated like a criminal" in my interactions with the Police is to have been given a ticket for speeding. Even then the officer was polite and courteous. Every other time such as at a checkpoint I have been treated in a friendly and courteous manner. Maybe the fact that I was not breaking the law made a difference?
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And who was it that started this thread? (To what end I really can't imagine). EVERY CUNT on here is a hypocrite, and some are even so fuckin ignorant they don't realise they are.

'Drew is capable of better than this, he must try harder if he is to stay in this class, a disappointing effort for a years work'

I'm a bit tired today, will try harder tomorrow.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I've never met a cop who has gained one red cent from tickets. But apparently they are out there, coz we are all guilty of revenue collecting. Or so I keep reading on here.

the only point that needs to be made in response to that is that just because the people (esp at the coalface of the organisation) are doing the best they can, with the purest of motives, it does not make the hierarchy, or their political masters less corrupt or at fault. Yes Nucksmuth, I'm looking at you. (I realise he is not Munster uf Pleece, by the way: just making a point).

[rastuscat]

the only point that needs to be made in response to that is that just because the people (esp at the coalface of the organisation) are doing the best they can, with the purest of motives, it does not make the hierarchy, or their political masters less corrupt or at fault. Yes Nucksmuth, I'm looking at you. (I realise he is not Munster uf Pleece, by the way: just making a point).

You make a worthy point, Henry.

So, instead of bagging Popos for revenue collecting, bag the Munster instead. I'm finding the bagging tedious.

Still, it's not going to happen, as it's always just easy to bag the Popo when it's the Popo you interact with when donating your dosh.

Same old suggestion. Don't break the rules, and you won't get fined.

[Gremlin]

PS I don't always indicate at roundabouts. If I'm the only vehicle on it or near it, then who am I indicating for? The law?

I reckon people start like that... oh, there isn't anyone around. Over a few years it progresses to oh, there isn't anybody close... then perhaps... oh, no-one needs to know, and eventually... indicate? Why? Make it a habit, and it's easy. Had plenty of cars simply change lanes on me, then realise I was there, and perhaps indicate on the next attempt. As I told one scared driver at the next light (coz I stopped and got off, behind him), yeah yeah, you didn't see me, but at least indicate, so I can do something about it. Down the next road he changes lane without indicating

Off to work now, Bikie Friends. Man, does my wife give me shit for the amount of time I spend talking to my Bikie Friends. Never mind.

I bet you don't know how you even survived without us

[tri boy]

I'm so over the whole licencing crap these days.
It's just a bore, and my meagre dollars is best spent on the necc, nessis, important things in life.
Pollies stack the deck.
Coppa's act like lap dogs to their masters.
Joe public couldn't give a fuck if one or a thousand bikers die on the roads.
Bikers act like cocks almost every minute on the road.

Register, don't register, no one really cares.
If your bleeding out on the side of the road after slamming into an oncoming car, because you thought you could take that corner like Rossi, that lil slip of paper wont stop the blood.

Fuck it.

[trustme]

As long as there are prostitutes there will be CVIU officers The rest by & large have never done me any harm.

CVIU have a policy of ' ticket any infringment, zero tolerance , get your revenue up ' as stated to me by an officer when I almost got a $500 dollar fine.

Guy went through me like a dose of salts then complemented me on all my paperwork, all road users were bang on , provided weigh bridge ticket to prove I had checked weight before leaving. I had a new log book about 4 days old, he checked that & the old log book, as he closed the new one he noted I had forgotten to put mu name on the front of the book.
He said because I was doing things right he was sure I had made an honest mistake & would let me off. I told him it was simply revenue gathering & nothing to do with road safety to which he agreed , the older cops don't like the way things have gone & will use a little discretion , the newer CVIU are just bastards.

Joe average copper is just doing his job.

[Berg]

As long as there are prostitutes there will be CVIU officers The rest by & large have never done me any harm.

CVIU have a policy of ' ticket any infringment, zero tolerance , get your revenue up ' as stated to me by an officer when I almost got a $500 dollar fine.

Guy went through me like a dose of salts then complemented me on all my paperwork, all road users were bang on , provided weigh bridge ticket to prove I had checked weight before leaving. I had a new log book about 4 days old, he checked that & the old log book, as he closed the new one he noted I had forgotten to put mu name on the front of the book.
He said because I was doing things right he was sure I had made an honest mistake & would let me off. I told him it was simply revenue gathering & nothing to do with road safety to which he agreed , the older cops don't like the way things have gone & will use a little discretion , the newer CVIU are just bastards.

Joe average copper is just doing his job.

What a load of horseshit. I could have issued thousands of dollars of tickets this week but chose to deal with many of them by way of warning or immediate complyance.

[Drew]

Joe average copper is just doing his job.

Yip, they certainly are. And the ones that don't actually think they are saving you by ticketing, still have to give out tickets, because most of the time they are dealing with drop kicks who won't respond to anything. So why shouldn't they?

I understand why the brainwashed ones wont enter into debate on the merrits or oppostite there of too.

But if we are to accept that they are not the ones to be fucked off at, perhaps they could at least admit we have a legitimate gripe as to what we are forced to pay.

Here's one quick question for anyone who can answer it. How can we be ticketed for "not displaying a current vehical licence"? There is absolutely no way to get away with not paying the registration fees. Having a vehicle registration on hold and using it, sure, you are deliberately breaking the law. But if the reg has just run out, you get a bill for it. Don't pay it, and beycorp come for you. Still don't pay it, and your credit rating is fucked.

To get a $200 ticket for something you have to pay one way or the other, is surely not legal.

[trustme]

What a load of horseshit. I could have issued thousands of dollars of tickets this week but chose to deal with many of them by way of warning or immediate complyance.

Figured I would get a bite

[Scuba_Steve]

You make a worthy point, Henry.

So, instead of bagging Popos for revenue collecting, bag the Munster instead. I'm finding the bagging tedious.

Still, it's not going to happen, as it's always just easy to bag the Popo when it's the Popo you interact with when donating your dosh.

Same with all aint it?, your on the front line you get the abuse. Wasn't Nick who increased the ACC levy's it was the National party, just like it isn't John Key selling assets again it's the National party yet them being the face to the problem they flack the abuse.

The older cops don't like the way things have gone & will use a little discretion , the newer CVIU are just bastards.

Alot of the "older" cops left when the "force" turned to making the monies for the Govt instead of real police work, you'll find alot of these guys now semi-retired running cafés in somewhat "out of the way" places round the country. Good guys, very friendly always good for a chat.

[MSTRS:Me]

I reckon people start like that... oh, there isn't anyone around. Over a few years it progresses to oh, there isn't anybody close... then perhaps... oh, no-one needs to know, and eventually... indicate? Why? Make it a habit, and it's easy.

I know all about habits. I got a wee lesson re a good one to have, in 1974, and it's served me well in all the years since. It covers a heap of particulars, but it boils down to one thing - Observation.
There is no point in indicating IF there is no-one to see it. And that's another habit I have...

[rastuscat]

As long as there are prostitutes there will be CVIU officers The rest by & large have never done me any harm.

CVIU have a policy of ' ticket any infringment, zero tolerance , get your revenue up ' as stated to me by an officer when I almost got a $500 dollar fine.

Guy went through me like a dose of salts then complemented me on all my paperwork, all road users were bang on , provided weigh bridge ticket to prove I had checked weight before leaving. I had a new log book about 4 days old, he checked that & the old log book, as he closed the new one he noted I had forgotten to put mu name on the front of the book.
He said because I was doing things right he was sure I had made an honest mistake & would let me off. I told him it was simply revenue gathering & nothing to do with road safety to which he agreed , the older cops don't like the way things have gone & will use a little discretion , the newer CVIU are just bastards.

Joe average copper is just doing his job.

Yeah it's revenue collecting. They are really going hard after your dollars.

Erm.............did you say, ALMOST GOT A $500 FINE? I guess he must have been 'almost revenue collecting'.

I 'almost revenue collect' most days. I see things happening that I could ping people for, but which are technical breaches that have little connection to road safety, other than in the big picture. So I 'almost revenue collect' from them. Hasn't cost any of them a cent.

E.g. I encourage my guys and girls to stop any vehicle which has less than the required number of brake lights working. Like, a car with less than 3, when 3 are required. We stop them to tell the driver that they have a light out. If we didn't stop them and tell them, they wouldn't know. But we don't charge them $150 for the advice, like we could. Yeah, it's all about revenue collecting. You have no idea how easy it would be to collect ten times as much revenue as we do now, if we really wanted to. But it wouldn't contribute to road safety much.

One day there might be a pill we can put in the water that causes everyone to wear seatbelts, stops at stop signs, complies with traffic lights etc. But for the moment all we have is the system the gubbermint provides, so that's how we try to encourage compliance.

I'm one of the old school ones you mentioned, and I often think of the old days. When we killed more than 700 people a year on the roads.
When I would stop an unlicenced driver, write him a ticket, then watch him drive off again.

The old days weren't always that good.

[Edbear]

And who was it that started this thread? (To what end I really can't imagine). EVERY CUNT on here is a hypocrite, and some are even so fuckin ignorant they don't realise they are.

I'm a bit tired today, will try harder tomorrow.

You are quite correct...

I'm so over the whole licencing crap these days.
It's just a bore, and my meagre dollars is best spent on the necc, nessis, important things in life.
Pollies stack the deck.
Coppa's act like lap dogs to their masters.
Joe public couldn't give a fuck if one or a thousand bikers die on the roads.
Bikers act like cocks almost every minute on the road.

Register, don't register, no one really cares.
If your bleeding out on the side of the road after slamming into an oncoming car, because you thought you could take that corner like Rossi, that lil slip of paper wont stop the blood.

Fuck it.

Again, you are correct, but the fees are like taxes and they do pay for a lot of stuff you would have to personally fund yourself. Everyone curses the Govt. for "revenue collecting", that's actually their job in porder to fund the society we live in... If people took care and responsibility the health industry would be far cheaper than it is.

Yip, they certainly are. And the ones that don't actually think they are saving you by ticketing, still have to give out tickets, because most of the time they are dealing with drop kicks who won't respond to anything. So why shouldn't they?

I understand why the brainwashed ones wont enter into debate on the merrits or oppostite there of too.

But if we are to accept that they are not the ones to be fucked off at, perhaps they could at least admit we have a legitimate gripe as to what we are forced to pay.

Here's one quick question for anyone who can answer it. How can we be ticketed for "not displaying a current vehical licence"? There is absolutely no way to get away with not paying the registration fees. Having a vehicle registration on hold and using it, sure, you are deliberately breaking the law. But if the reg has just run out, you get a bill for it. Don't pay it, and beycorp come for you. Still don't pay it, and your credit rating is fucked.

To get a $200 ticket for something you have to pay one way or the other, is surely not legal.

Same for not having your licence I guess. It's no big deal really and as Rastuscat says, officers do show discretion. I often re-register online and carry the receipt with me until the label comes in the mail.

I know all about habits. I got a wee lesson re a good one to have, in 1974, and it's served me well in all the years since. It covers a heap of particulars, but it boils down to one thing - Observation.
There is no point in indicating IF there is no-one to see it. And that's another habit I have...

Do fart in the forest and say, "Excuse me!" when there is no-one around..?

[trustme]

Yeah it's revenue collecting. They are really going hard after your dollars.

Erm.............did you say, ALMOST GOT A $500 FINE? I guess he must have been 'almost revenue collecting'.

I 'almost revenue collect' most days. I see things happening that I could ping people for, but which are technical breaches that have little connection to road safety, other than in the big picture. So I 'almost revenue collect' from them. Hasn't cost any of them a cent.

E.g. I encourage my guys and girls to stop any vehicle which has less than the required number of brake lights working. Like, a car with less than 3, when 3 are required. We stop them to tell the driver that they have a light out. If we didn't stop them and tell them, they wouldn't know. But we don't charge them $150 for the advice, like we could. Yeah, it's all about revenue collecting. You have no idea how easy it would be to collect ten times as much revenue as we do now, if we really wanted to. But it wouldn't contribute to road safety much.

One day there might be a pill we can put in the water that causes everyone to wear seatbelts, stops at stop signs, complies with traffic lights etc. But for the moment all we have is the system the gubbermint provides, so that's how we try to encourage compliance.

I'm one of the old school ones you mentioned, and I often think of the old days. When we killed more than 700 people a year on the roads.
When I would stop an unlicenced driver, write him a ticket, then watch him drive off again.

The old days weren't always that good.

Truck driver gets pulled in at Stanley St. COF on trailer is about a week old. Number plate light is out & is ticketed for no tail lights . Goes to the guys superior & argues that his tail light are operating it is a number plate light. Told to get lost . Stopped 13 times over the next 2 days.

One CVIU area chief refers to truckies as the 'enemy'. As the CVIU bloke said, 'I'd rather have a beer with your average truckie than my workmates'

Lots more stories like that.

CVIU have no fathers the rest are OK

[MSTRS:Me]

Do fart in the forest and say, "Excuse me!" when there is no-one around..?

Never happen. I don't pull my own finger...