It's soooooo unfair (sniffle)

[Drew]

Well, I blew it.

Wrote out a ticket to a motorcylclist for Drove With Wrong Class of Licence 'cos he only had a car licence. $400 ta!

14 days might be a tad tight to get his licence, considering he'll need basic handling and all that jazz.

Are we praising you or admitting you might have soul after all?

[schrodingers cat]

This thread started with a Troll

Pretty effective too judging by the last 15 pages of (mostly) horseshit.

However I've learnt that if you want to be a 1%er don't pay tax to 'the man'

[rastuscat]

Pretty effective too judging by the last 15 pages of (mostly) horseshit.

Gee thanks.

Rastus

[schrodingers cat]

Gee thanks.

Rastus

Now now. I was referring to the tired entrenched positions trotted out again.

[scumdog]

14 days might be a tad tight to get his licence, considering he'll need basic handling and all that jazz.

Are we praising you or admitting you might have soul after all?

Well HE said he could do it....

[Berries]

Now now. I was referring to the tired entrenched positions trotted out again.

Don't mention trotters.

[rastuscat]

Well HE said he could do it....

Did ya forbid him? We can forbid one class now. How bizarre was it when we caught someone with the wrong class, wrote up some tickets, then watched him ride off, still with the wrong class.

[Drew]

Well HE said he could do it....

I wasn't havin a go, just saying he'll struggle if it's as hard to get a booking down there as it is here.

Did ya forbid him? We can forbid one class now. How bizarre was it when we caught someone with the wrong class, wrote up some tickets, then watched him ride off, still with the wrong class.

Yeah, I had a guy forbid me to drive, but let me ride home from somewhere between Aukland and Wellington. My licence had expired.

[Scuba_Steve]

So I gave him 14 days Compliance to get his Learner motocycle licence.

Is this "compliance" thing also something judges hand out???

Remember going for my learners (basic handling) it was just after the holidays so there was about 50 in all show up, 49 on motorbikes & 20-30 of them gang members on HD's. (Now I know they have less power than a scooter but they're still not legal as a learners bike in NZ)
That got me wondering if that was a judges "I don't want to deal with them, go get your learners & we'll ignore the fine" (not that they'd still be legal for another 18mths)

[FJRider]

Is this "compliance" thing also something judges hand out???

Remember going for my learners (basic handling) it was just after the holidays so there was about 50 in all show up, 49 on motorbikes & 20-30 of them gang members on HD's. (Now I know they have less power than a scooter but they're still not legal as a learners bike in NZ)
That got me wondering if that was a judges "I don't want to deal with them, go get your learners & we'll ignore the fine" (not that they'd still be legal for another 18mths)

I haven't heard of such ... I imagine an officer also gave them "complience" ...

[Edbear]

Well HE said he could do it....

The guy must have had an amazing attitude. unlicensed on an off road bike with no rego, WoF or even a plate and you treat him with leniency? You'll give cops a bad rep mate...

[Owl]

and you treat him with leniency?

It happens Ed!

I got let off for speeding, while riding a 750cc on my restricted, with a pillion at about 1.??am

[MSTRS:Me]

The guy must have had an amazing attitude. unlicensed on an off road bike with no rego, WoF or even a plate and you treat him with leniency? You'll give cops a bad rep mate...

Some sort of rep, anyway. Can't be avoided, if one is running around at night, without benefit of clothing, swinging their truncheon and not giving out traffic tickets, eh?
A hard act to follow...

[Edbear]

Some sort of rep, anyway. Can't be avoided, if one is running around at night, without benefit of clothing, swinging their truncheon and not giving out traffic tickets, eh?
A hard act to follow...

Poor guy is forever going to be known as the naked policeman!

[rastuscat]

Some sort of rep, anyway. Can't be avoided, if one is running around at night, without benefit of clothing, swinging their truncheon and not giving out traffic tickets, eh?
A hard act to follow...

Yup, Scummies enforcement tactics are rarely copied. I rarely remove my clothes before chasing crooks.

Don't confuse the diversion system (normally for court offences) with the compliance system (infringement based).

FYI, if a Popo is writing you a ticket on a SMART device, and the offence is one that complies with the national compliance policy, a wee tick box comes up on the screen that gives the Popo a chance to offer compliance i.e. a period to rectify the fault.

Outside that, we sometimes run our own compliance policies. Like, I stop a guy who drives his own car, and he's on a learners. His time is up, he just hasn't got the restricted yet. So, attitude dependant, I don't write the ticket, but I tell him he has, say, 2 weeks to get his restricted. I can check 2 weeks later to see if he has updated. If he hasn't he gets posted the ticket.

See, oddly enough, I'd prefer that he spent the cash on getting his restricted, rather than fines. After all, if I fine him, he still has to pay for his restricted.

Problem with this practise is that it encourages cynical people to not bother to comply, as they know that when they get stopped they can sort it and not get the fine anyway. It's really a question of judgement for the officer, attitude test, that sort of thing. When you've been doing this a while, you get better at it.

Just FYI, and another conversation starter.

Have at it.